So, small update. I've been doing a ton of play-testing, mostly against Grey Knights, and sometimes against Orks. After a half-dozen or more practice battles, I've decided that Haldor Icepelt, the Primaris Battle Leader, just doesn't work very well, at all. I've even been making him my Warlord, with Saga of the Wolfkin, and giving him the Armour of Russ, but he still doesn't kill enough, and dies too easily. The Damage 1 Power Axe just doesn't cut it (ha!), when going up against Elite Infantry, like Paladins.
Also, the Armour of Russ helps, with the 4++ Invulnerable Save, which he normally wouldn't have an Inv Save, at all. However, it hasn't been quite as Over-Powered as it should be, when an opponent can spend the 2 Command Points for the melee interrupt (Counter-Offensive stratagem) and bypass the effects of the Armour.
So, based on this experience, albeit limited, I'm thinking I'm going to have to give the new Bladeguard Battle Leader a go as my second in command. I'm thinking I'll get a lot more out of the Neo-Volkite Pistol, Master-crafted Power Sword, and Storm Shield loadout, than I have been with the Bolt Carbine, Power Axe, and Armour of Russ.
On a positive note, if the Judiciar's rules end up making him really, really, worth taking, I'm thinking I can use my Haldor as a count-as Judiciar. He'll just be carrying a Relic Executioner's Axe.
I've converted all 3 of his models to something else lol
I have played a few games against orks this last weekend. My buddy runs a decent amount of multiwound junk like Kans and scrap tanks at me while he shoots away with his smasha guns and flashgitz.
I have been using a Supreme HQ stalker pack detachment. Warlord battle leader on thunderwolf with saga of savage and Ironfang relic, 2 battle leaders with jumps/shields/fists and 10 man unit of grapnel Reivers.
The rest of my points are spent on 2 5 man Intercessors in impulsors, ragnar, primaris wolf priest, phobos rune priest, some incursors and a few wulfen dreads including Murderfang.
It may not be an optimal setup but for 475 points and some decent maneuvering I can line up some really tough threats. I relinquish the idea that detachment does anything but mostly die but its enough to keep most attention from the rest of the stuff moving up. I got a couple really good lineups using the battleleaders jump in on a huge boys mob and using bloodscent on them after the BL
killed some. I was able to 1 round an entire 30 man mob with reivers
I would like to play vs a very competitive grey Knights list. Nobody I know runs them anymore
Edited by Debauchery101, 16 June 2020 - 05:07 AM.