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Indomitus Face-Off - Knights vs. GSC (Faction Focus)


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Get ready for the big Indomitus Face-off with today's #New40K show. We'll also be looking at Knights and Genestealer Cults in the new edition. https://bit.ly/2ZnOEui


Guess we'll be getting a GSC Faction Focus later today as well.

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Saturday preview will show lots of rules for models in the Indomitus box as well as some other models we haven't seen before


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Oh my.


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Nice long range melta, but a pointless rule. 99% of the time all models in that unit will want to shoot the same thing anyway. 


Edited by Xenith, 29 June 2020 - 02:36 PM.

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Mmmm assault multimeltas, noice.


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That is an interesting implication for multi meltas everywhere else in the game.

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THOSE ERADICATORS, haha! So cool!


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The double shot on the eradicators is neat and a fluffy way to do it. 5PL is about 100 points at today's value, so that's a pretty sweet value for 6 melta shots.


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Nice long range melta, but a pointless rule. 99% of the time all models in that unit will want to shoot the same thing anyway. 

 

Mostly yeah, but it still means double shots!



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So the average output of eradicators vs t7 and outside of 12" is 9.1 wounds. If these guys can be taken in units of 6 they can be scary with raven guard or scars, but if not don't expect them to do much.

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A base Aggressor with a Multi Melta would be 43 points I think
Closer to 100 and theyre very tempting
Minus 5 ap in tactical doctrine (?)

I like this end to ridiculous conga lines, should help speed the game up a little too

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So 5 Power is roughly 100pts, right?

*Looks at Fire Dragons and Retributors*

Okay then.

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So the average output of eradicators vs t7 and outside of 12" is 9.1 wounds. If these guys can be taken in units of 6 they can be scary with raven guard or scars, but if not don't expect them to do much.

you forget that each faction can outflank now.



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Double shooting that’s essentially free? Great. Can’t wait to see these in action

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On the stream, I'm pretty sure they said that characters are limited to one per detachment. If you want multiple Captains or any characters, you need to take multiple detachments. 

 

Edit: As is pointed out later in the thread, this seems to just be a GSC rule. 


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That is an interesting implication for multi meltas everywhere else in the game.


Don't think anyone else is going to get that primaries treatment though... =/

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On the stream, I'm pretty sure they said that characters are limited to one per detachment. If you want multiple Captains or any characters, you need to take multiple detachments.


One type of character per detachment I guess? Otherwise battalions and brigades are impossible to create.

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On the stream, I'm pretty sure they said that characters are limited to one per detachment. If you want multiple Captains or any characters, you need to take multiple detachments.


Do you mean like one of each type of character per detachment or just 1 character full stop? I’d have thought the first one but thought I’d better check :)

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I meant one of each type of character per detachment. Sorry about the confusion. 


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That’s all well and good for Space marines but Guard? I can only have one company commander per detachment? Screw that

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just one charakter type... the quesiton is how they write it - one chaplain or one datasheet. for example. 


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I meant one of each type of character per detachment. Sorry about the confusion.


So no triple daemon princes anymore I guess.

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just one charakter type... the quesiton is how they write it - one chaplain or one datasheet. for example. 

It will be likely that each character datasheet can only be taken once per detachment. Otherwise it would require a much more intensive writeup to say what keywords can only be taken once in each codex. 


 

I meant one of each type of character per detachment. Sorry about the confusion.


So no triple daemon princes anymore I guess.

 

Only if they have 3 detachments. 


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Many factions are very limited in their HQ options. Is this a confirmed thing or speculation? If confirmed how on earth did it make it through play testing.




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