Kingnoname1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 video: Points: HQArchon - 60 Homonculus 75 Sucubus 65 Drazhar 105 Lelith Hasperax 85 Urien Rakarth 95 TroopsKabalite Warriors 9 Wracks 12 Wyches 11 Fast AttackClawed Fiends 35 Hellions 15 Khymerae 12 Razorwing Flocks 14 Reavers 20 Scourges 15 ElitesBeatmaster 40 Incubi 16 Grotesques 40 Lhamaen 16 Mandrakes 17 Medusae 22 Ssylth 21 Ur-Ghul 16 Heavy Support Kronos 70 Ravagers 85 Talos 85 Dedicated Transport Raider 70 Venom 60 Flyers Razorwing Jetfighter 120 Voidraven Bomber 185 Fortification Webway Gate 95 Ranged Weapons Beil blast? (Couldn't quite catch it) 0 Blast Pistol - 5 Blaster - 15 Dark Lance (Infantry) -15 Dark Scythe - 20 Disintiegrator Cannon - 25 I Burst? - 0 Haywire Blaster 10 Heat Lance - 10 Hex Rifle - 5 Liquify Gun - 10 Auscerfactor - 5 Phantasm Grenade Launcher 5 Razorwing Missles - 0 Shardcarbine - 0 Shredders - 10 Spirit Scython - 0 Spirit Vortex - 10 Splinter Cannon (Infantry) - 10, others it's 15 Splinter Pistol, pod, and Rifle = 0 Stinger pistol - 5 Stinger Pod - 10 Twin Liquifier guns - 15 Twin Splinter Rifle - 0 Void Lance - 0 Void Missiles - 0 MELEE WEAPONS Agonizer = 5 Arklight blade and blade veins = 0 Chain Flails - 5 Clawed Fists and Claws and Talons = 0 Electrocorrisive whip = 5 Demiglaves = 0 Flesh Gauntlet = 5 Glimmer steel Blade = 0 Oculus Tools = 0 Heckatary Blade? = 0 Hellgalives = 0 Huskblade = 5 Hydra Gauntlets = 5 Ichor Injector = 5 Impaler = 5 Macro Scalpel = 5 Mindphase Gauntlet = 5 Monstrous Cleaver = 0 Power Lance = 5 Razor Feathers = 0 Razor Flowers = 5 Scissorhand = 10 Shaimeshi Blade = 0 Shardnet & Impaler = 10 Shockprowl = 5 Spiritleach Tentacles = 0 Smith Battleblade = 0 Stunclaw = 5 Talos Gauntlet = 15 Venom Blade = 5 Other Wargear Chain Snares = 2 Cluster Count Drops = 3 Grav Talons 3 Grisley Trophies 2 Spirit Probe 5 Splinter Wracks = 10 Copied from a reddit thread, thought you guys might wanna have a look at it to. olsol 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsol Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 a lot of wargear went down in points which is nice (except for the disintigrator cannon, but the increases to model costs like Kab Warriors, Wyches and Wraks is quite annoying. my 2000 point list went up to 2278! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I'm not familiar enough with the point costs off hand to judge, but the point increase on Warriors and Wyches could have been worse given we were told of a roughly 20% increase so relatively that probably works out as a net win compared to most other Troops. I don't have any effective lists to worry about much, but at least I can now lay claim to more painted points of DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlokin Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The problem really isn't how much of a hike it was, but how much it was relative to other factions....so for example we had an average 16% increase, while marines had 10%, which is obviously fair and balanced... Anyway, I'm sticking it out with Drukhari, come what may.I'll probably be dropping Razorwings, Incubi, and Cronos....and taking Drazhar, Rakarth, Taloi, Grots, and as many Kabalites in Venoms that I can fit (with Blast Pistols). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I'm not sure what the average increases are, something I saw had Marines getting more increase than DE but either way it's not a very meaningful metric. With all the changes we'll need to wait for the dust to settle and see how it goes with fewer models on the table for everyone, not to mention relative use with the new game in 9th. Going to be very interesting to hear people's reports from earlier experiences. Before the next Chapter Approved starts dropping all the points again, presumably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlokin Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 This sort of thing is a bit 'annoying'... A Venom with 2 Splinter Cannons has:- A capacity of 5 models- Subtract's 1 from shooting attacks against it.- A 5++ against shooting- 12 S- AP- D1 Poison 4+ shots at 18" (half that many further away).A Starweaver with 2 Shuriken Cannons has:- A capacity of 6 models- Subtract's 1 from shooting attacks against it.- A straight 4++- Always Advances 6"- 6 S6 AP- D1 Rending shots at 24" (Can still be fired after the model Advances).In 9th, the Starweaver costs 80pts, whilst the Venom costs 90. Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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