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Did we really need an identical version of the set with the same options and roughly the same look?

Do we need a kit that has the option to pose the models as we want, to have weapon options like plasma pistols, to put on helmetless heads and with separate shoulder pads to put on the pads with sculpted chapter iconografy?

I guess you already know that the reply is YES

A hobby saw and a file would have solved all of your issues without this Primaris wave eating up even more of the release schedule on a kit that doesn't actually add much. Maybe they can bundle it in with the landspeeder and latest Primaris tank so we can get to proper faction updates that much sooner...

 

 

So they shpould never had put a kit with separate Inceptors, Intercessors and hellblasters forcing people that wanted more of them to buy more dark imperium boxes and try to sell the DG part and rulebook

And you cannot bundle the bladeguard alone with other things

In Indomitus they are in a big sprue together with the Bladeguard Ancient, Chaplain, Judiciar, Eradicators

But yes instead making a separate kit of Bladeguard let's fill the houses of SM players with Chaplains and Judiciars they will never use ;)


Edited by Master Sheol, 21 July 2020 - 09:25 PM.

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I think the comment was more about just using the same sculpts as a snap together kit instead of have another multi build option.
I would just hope that in this “multi part” kit that there are more options available otherwise they may as well have just used the same snap together (with a different mold).

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Did we really need an identical version of the set with the same options and roughly the same look?

Do we need a kit that has the option to pose the models as we want, to have weapon options like plasma pistols, to put on helmetless heads and with separate shoulder pads to put on the pads with sculpted chapter iconografy?

I guess you already know that the reply is YES

A hobby saw and a file would have solved all of your issues without this Primaris wave eating up even more of the release schedule on a kit that doesn't actually add much. Maybe they can bundle it in with the landspeeder and latest Primaris tank so we can get to proper faction updates that much sooner...

 

 

So they shpould never had put a kit with separate Inceptors, Intercessors and hellblasters forcing people that wanted more of them to buy more dark imperium boxes and try to sell the DG part and rulebook

And you cannot bundle the bladeguard alone with other things

In Indomitus they are in a big sprue together with the Bladeguard Ancient, Chaplain, Judiciar, Eradicators

But yes instead making a separate kit of Bladeguard let's fill the houses of SM players with Chaplains and Judiciars they will never use msn-wink.gif

 

It's funny you mention that- because all those kits had actual, meaningful options and were noticeably different from the snap fits.

 

ie: Dark Imperium kits couldn't be used for the multipart variations 1:1.

 

The Bladeguard don't have that going for them. It's already done but it definitely shows skewed decision making by GW at a time when pretty much everything else (including getting Primaris releases out of the way so factions can have meaningful updates) should have been higher priority.


Edited by Lucerne, 21 July 2020 - 09:38 PM.

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Did we really need an identical version of the set with the same options and roughly the same look?

Do we need a kit that has the option to pose the models as we want, to have weapon options like plasma pistols, to put on helmetless heads and with separate shoulder pads to put on the pads with sculpted chapter iconografy?
I guess you already know that the reply is YES
A hobby saw and a file would have solved all of your issues without this Primaris wave eating up even more of the release schedule on a kit that doesn't actually add much. Maybe they can bundle it in with the landspeeder and latest Primaris tank so we can get to proper faction updates that much sooner...

So they shpould never had put a kit with separate Inceptors, Intercessors and hellblasters forcing people that wanted more of them to buy more dark imperium boxes and try to sell the DG part and rulebook
And you cannot bundle the bladeguard alone with other things
In Indomitus they are in a big sprue together with the Bladeguard Ancient, Chaplain, Judiciar, Eradicators
But yes instead making a separate kit of Bladeguard let's fill the houses of SM players with Chaplains and Judiciars they will never use msn-wink.gif
It's funny you mention that- because all those kits had actual, meaningful options and were noticeably different from the snap fits.

ie: Dark Imperium kits couldn't be used for the multipart variations 1:1.

The Bladeguard don't have that going for them. It's already done but it definitely shows skewed decision making by GW at a time when pretty much everything else (including getting Primaris releases out of the way so factions can have meaningful updates) should have been higher priority.

Do we know the bladeguard wont have options? I'd be shocked if there were none.

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Did we really need an identical version of the set with the same options and roughly the same look?

Do we need a kit that has the option to pose the models as we want, to have weapon options like plasma pistols, to put on helmetless heads and with separate shoulder pads to put on the pads with sculpted chapter iconografy?
I guess you already know that the reply is YES
A hobby saw and a file would have solved all of your issues without this Primaris wave eating up even more of the release schedule on a kit that doesn't actually add much. Maybe they can bundle it in with the landspeeder and latest Primaris tank so we can get to proper faction updates that much sooner...

So they shpould never had put a kit with separate Inceptors, Intercessors and hellblasters forcing people that wanted more of them to buy more dark imperium boxes and try to sell the DG part and rulebook
And you cannot bundle the bladeguard alone with other things
In Indomitus they are in a big sprue together with the Bladeguard Ancient, Chaplain, Judiciar, Eradicators
But yes instead making a separate kit of Bladeguard let's fill the houses of SM players with Chaplains and Judiciars they will never use msn-wink.gif
It's funny you mention that- because all those kits had actual, meaningful options and were noticeably different from the snap fits.

ie: Dark Imperium kits couldn't be used for the multipart variations 1:1.

The Bladeguard don't have that going for them. It's already done but it definitely shows skewed decision making by GW at a time when pretty much everything else (including getting Primaris releases out of the way so factions can have meaningful updates) should have been higher priority.

Do we know the bladeguard wont have options? I'd be shocked if there were none.

 

The lack of options on the image makes me assume the worst. If it does have a meaningful tweak to the loadout, then naturally I don't have as many objections...but it really doesn't look like that's the case.


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I imagine theyd try to avoid having images of stuff before it's time.

Some other melee weapon options would be cool for example.

I'll reserve right to grump when it comes out lol.
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You never know that could just be the vanilla loadout and we may get something like thunderhammers as an option.

 

Actually it will be interesting to see what the Sergeant options are, thunderhammer or powerfist might be interesting.


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I mean - yes? What, should new units only be available via limited run boxes?

The Venomcrawler, Blightbringer, Plaguecaster, Chosen, Obliterators, Master of Possession and Cultists to an extent make me a sad panda. sad.png

Exactly 100% why we should always desire separate kits no matter the situation.
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I just want an ETB Bladeguard and an ETB Assault Intercessor kit.  I'd prefer a five man squad for each at higher price point   of $25 to $35/$40, but even if they just did  3 man squads at $15 dollars I'd be happy.  If the Allarus Custodes, and  Mulit-part Agressors is anything to go by, the Multi-part kit for the Bladeguard is likely going to be $50 for the three, which is censored.gif  ridiculous.  Heck it may even be $60 for the three like it is with the Deathshroud/Blightlord Terminator kit   


Edited by lordhellblade, 21 July 2020 - 11:26 PM.

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Is it just me, or is the dude with the bolter the second model posed in such a way to have weirdly bowed legs? I noticed that the new Dark Angel master model had reverse bow leg syndrome, and this model seems to have that same, uh, issue?

I don’t have either model, so can’t really tell, but it just looked weird to me. I mean Lazarus’ left leg looks like it’s really breaking inward at the knee from the pictures I’ve seen, and that Bladeguard on the right looks similar. Just curious is all.

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I just want an ETB Bladeguard and an ETB Assault Intercessor kit. I'd prefer a five man squad for each at higher price point of $25 to $35/$40, but even if they just did 3 man squads at $15 dollars I'd be happy. If the Allarus Custodes, and Mulit-part Agressors is anything to go by, the Multi-part kit for the Bladeguard is likely going to be $50 for the three, which is censored.gif ridiculous. Heck it may even be $60 for the three like it is with the Deathshroud/Blightlord Terminator kit

The assault intercessors in Indomitus are already a 5 men EtB kit
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I honestly doubt the Bladeguard Veterans will get something like a Thunderhammer option. It's kinda in the name. :sweat:


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I honestly doubt the Not Hammer guard Veterans will get something like a Thunderhammer option. It's kinda in the name. :sweat:

Agreed.
I suspect the Master Crafted Power Swords are going to be thier trademark; along with the specific Storm Shield they wield.

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Unless the bladeguard bit is in reference to them guarding from blades, not using them.

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Unless the bladeguard bit is in reference to them guarding from blades, not using them.

 

I bet all my warhammer stuff that it's not that. :D


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I honestly doubt the Not Hammer guard Veterans will get something like a Thunderhammer option. It's kinda in the name. :sweat:

Agreed.
I suspect the Master Crafted Power Swords are going to be thier trademark; along with the specific Storm Shield they wield.

A two handed sword option would be nice, though. Maybe a one in three option mirroring the new necron cc destroyers.

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My guess is there'll be some options for the sergeant at least, as well as some different bits/heads/pose options. I also think it is completely unsurprising (and very sensible) that they're releasing a non-limited multipart kit of a new marine unit.

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The "old" Vanguard had that big relic blade. One can hope the same.

I agree that while the name is "BladeGuard" having a selection of power weapon bits would only help to sell the kit.

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The "old" Vanguard had that big relic blade. One can hope the same.

I agree that while the name is "BladeGuard" having a selection of power weapon bits would only help to sell the kit.

Axes have blades too :D
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Everyone says this confirms the multipart bladeguard kit won't have any options, but I think people are overlooking one distinct possibility: that it will be a dual build kit like Infiltrators/Incursors are.
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I'd hope for maybe axes plus their existing swords, and maybe alternative pistol options. a two handed sword would indeed be cool.

 

Honestly i'm just looking forward to some legit primaris CC units.


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One thing I hated about Dark Imperium models is that they were the 'budget' versions of the multipart models. If you compare the models from the DI with the multipart one's, you will see that they are of lower quality. I hope this isn't the case with Indomitus. The fact that Indomitus Bladeguard don't have scabbards is the first red sign.



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One the other hand, the Intercessors in Dark Imperium have some lovely poses that are impossible to make with the multipart kit, such as the one sighting down his rifle. 

 

Having separate easy-to-build and multipart kits gives variety in pose and detail, so always gets the thumbs-up from me. 

 

With that said, it's nice to get some additional options. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a multi-part Bladeguard kit including some other options. The Bladeguard might be limited to swords and shields, but there are plenty of kits that are dual build – perhaps we'll see another Veteran unit type in the same box?


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Thinking about it: a multipart plastic kit with only the same weapons already found in the ETB kit doesn’t make much sense. GW wants to sell that $50-60 kit to those who already have the Indomitus box, multiple times if possible.
Not having different weapons would offer little to no incentive in getting such a multipart kit.




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