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Saga of the beast errata update


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Nothing new for us in Saga. Universal obsec still on place.

Munitorum manual has new points for suppressor, now 33.

And character protection is updated to no more Bjorn/Murderfang hand holding

Edited by Rune Priest Jbickb, 10 August 2020 - 04:10 PM.

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Invictor gun points werent fixed

Stormfangs get free skyhammers

Any others they missed?

Charcater targeting change means no more shield dread hiding characters either

Edited by Dark Shepherd, 10 August 2020 - 04:26 PM.

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They need to either hire a better quality review team or talk to fans more.

These are simple things to correct...

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Invictor gun points werent fixed

Stormfangs get free skyhammers

Any others they missed?

Are we sure skyhammers aren't meant to be free? Asking because I honestly didn't think that was an issue but am interested to here why they shouldn't be free


It is odd that dreads dont hide dreads anymore...

Edited by Rune Priest Jbickb, 10 August 2020 - 04:27 PM.

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Hope it all gets sorted by the time i get to play again...what a mess.



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Invictor gun points werent fixed

Stormfangs get free skyhammers

Any others they missed?

Are we sure skyhammers aren't meant to be free? Asking because I honestly didn't think that was an issue but am interested to here why they shouldn't be free


It is odd that dreads dont hide dreads anymore...

Sorry Stormstrikes
Basing this off an Auspex Tactics vid but I think its Stormstrikes are compulsory on Stormravens so are free. Stormfangs are the only other unit that can take them sic but they are not compulsory but are still 0 points for us

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It is odd that dreads dont hide dreads anymore...


First born dreads don't

Primaris dreads do

Redemptor is 13 wounds
Invictor is 13 wounds

Coincidence?

Edited by TiguriusX, 10 August 2020 - 04:33 PM.

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Contemptors sneak in? Is annoying that gosh darn shield dreads cant shield mini characters

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Invictor gun points werent fixed

Stormfangs get free skyhammers

Any others they missed?

Are we sure skyhammers aren't meant to be free? Asking because I honestly didn't think that was an issue but am interested to here why they shouldn't be free


It is odd that dreads dont hide dreads anymore...
Sorry Stormstrikes
Basing this off an Auspex Tactics vid but I think its Stormstrikes are compulsory on Stormravens so are free. Stormfangs are the only other unit that can take them sic but they are not compulsory but are still 0 points for us

I guess I see the angle but I expect them to stay free especially since we are getting rolled into the same codex and its shared wargear.

Also Inceptors were mentioned in the other thread as being mis costed still which I had completely forgotten.
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They also didn't fix the fact that Bolter Inceptors are 75 points for us still
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They've now had multiple opportunities to address the fact that our entire army gets Objective Secured (minus Fenrisian Wolves, Cyber Wolves, and Servitors), and still haven't made the change, so it seems pretty clear that it is, indeed, intentional.

 

Enjoy!


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They've now had multiple opportunities to address the fact that our entire army gets Objective Secured (minus Fenrisian Wolves, Cyber Wolves, and Servitors), and still haven't made the change, so it seems pretty clear that it is, indeed, intentional.

Enjoy!


Definitely agreed.
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Charcater targeting change means no more shield dread hiding characters either

Well, that's disheartening. I was planning on running Bjorn & Murderfang, escorted by two axe/shield ven dreads, as a separate force on the table to wreak havoc on their own. Now the Ven dreads can't even protect my normal characters either.

I guess my TWC went up in value though.

Edited by Axilleas, 10 August 2020 - 10:56 PM.


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Shameless speculation and wishlisting

2 wound mini marines =
3 wound Wulfen
4 wound TWC

Hook that up to my veins

 

Where is the 2++ save for Bjorn???

 

You're not whising hard enough!!!!!!!!

 

Honestly, all dreads need to get 2+ armor saves IMO. It makes no sense their armor save is worse than TDA.


Edited by Gherrick, 11 August 2020 - 01:15 AM.

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Considering TDA is the "man" sized, more "portable" version of Dreadnought armor.
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3 wound Wolf Guard termies? Oh yes....this is the change I can get behind. Let the 2 wounds for all marines loyal and chaos be true as well.


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On the topic of the objective secured for everything, I would love for it to be intentional but GW has missed a bunch of things with their most recent updates for points and FAQs that I would put any stock in this being intentional. We will find out when the Codex release drops if they intend it but right now I wouldn't do this in your friendly games for what it's worth. Not until we get something official from GW saying that this was intended, at least. That being said, I'm not the hobby police so hobby as you want as long as everyone is having fun!

Edit: Grammar

Edited by The Saint Ragnar, 11 August 2020 - 11:33 AM.

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Charcater targeting change means no more shield dread hiding characters either

Well, that's disheartening. I was planning on running Bjorn & Murderfang, escorted by two axe/shield ven dreads, as a separate force on the table to wreak havoc on their own. Now the Ven dreads can't even protect my normal characters either.

I guess my TWC went up in value though.

What's to say dreadnoughts aren't going to get wound increases too...

I'm 90% through a pretty sweet Murderfang, but certainly not buying anything till we know more. I want an oldmarine swarm with chainswords literally everywhere so it's pile of (obsolete?) shame painting time, and hope for the best. It's looking like 40k is making everyone's favourite units viable again, if you really want them. It's great.

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What's the wording change in character targeting?
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What's the wording change in character targeting?


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Change the first sentence to read:
‘Models cannot target a unit that contains any Character models with a Wounds characteristic of 9 or less with a ranged weapon while that unit is within 3" of any other friendly Vehicle or Monster unit with a Wounds characteristic of 10 or more, or while it is within 3" of any other friendly units that have 3 or more models, unless that Character unit is both visible to the firing model and it is the closest enemy unit to the firing model – the maelstrom of battle makes it difficult to pick out such individuals.’

Edit: fixed weird formatting from copy paste

Edited by Rune Priest Jbickb, 11 August 2020 - 12:42 PM.

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So does that mean that a rhino on 1 wound doesn't negate character targeting? 


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It's based off original wounds I Believe. So a 1w rhino would still protect
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So does that mean that a rhino on 1 wound doesn't negate character targeting?


It states wound characteristic, which is not changed through damage.
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It’s based off of the Wounds characteristic, not current Wounds.

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I'm confident at this stage the Obsec is intentional, they've had 2 FAQ passes plus one of the Necron dynasty codes states they get armywide Obsec with troops counting as 2 models each.


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