Karack Blackstone Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) Hello. So, ALL Astartes with Chainswords will now get Astartes Chainswords. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/365869-2w-veterans/?p=5583241 At least Veteran status Astartes are going to be 2 Wounds per model. WG, and WGPL, I'm looking at you. WG TDA are 3 Wounds. If GH's and BC's go to 2 Wounds per model, then BC's if they stay competitively priced points wise should see LOADS of battlefield units. LRC BC Deathstar or SWolf BC pack for Harassing far afield, either with maybe WP And WGPL as of old, .... Hoo boy! I'm loving how this is looking for the SW's on the table. Certainly a good day to play Wolves. ObSec on all Infantry was too good to be true; still, it's a good thing they caught it when they did. So, anyone want to start the hyperbole on the 1W or 2W NorMarines yet? Oh wait, I think I just did... Edit: Link added Edited August 12, 2020 by Karack Blackstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Regarding Objective Secured: fourth time’s a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 i honestly hope mini marines stay at 1 wound. Castle Wolfenstein 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papeu Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 i honestly hope mini marines stay at 1 wound.Agree! Castle Wolfenstein 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Bladeguard are at 3 and veterans are at 2, so i think the extra PA wound wound is only a veteran thing. veterans are fine at 2, though. 2 wound power armour wolf guard sounds fun too me. Edited August 13, 2020 by Wispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I certainly would like the extra wound for veteran and heavy units for all factions. It will make them feel more worth it than they currently do most of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 i honestly hope mini marines stay at 1 wound. Yeah, wiping out the Primaris advantage of having the second Wound, and giving it to basic Firstborn troops would be a really weird move. I’d expect the new pattern to be: Firstborn Marine 1W. Primaris Marine 2W Firstborn Veteran 2W. Primaris Veteran 3W Firstborn Veteran in TDA 3W. Primaris Marine in Gravis 3W From that point you go into the various Character options, where the Primaris version would have 1 more Wound than the Firstborn version, and with TDA granting an extra Wound for Firstborn characters, and Gravis granting an extra Wound for Primaris. Castle Wolfenstein, Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, Lord Blackwood and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 i honestly hope mini marines stay at 1 wound. Yeah, wiping out the Primaris advantage of having the second Wound, and giving it to basic Firstborn troops would be a really weird move. I’d expect the new pattern to be: Firstborn Marine 1W. Primaris Marine 2W Firstborn Veteran 2W. Primaris Veteran 3W Firstborn Veteran in TDA 3W. Primaris Marine in Gravis 3W From that point you go into the various Character options, where the Primaris version would have 1 more Wound than the Firstborn version, and with TDA granting an extra Wound for Firstborn characters, and Gravis granting an extra Wound for Primaris. This sounds pretty reasonable. Lets folks who are set on rolling older marine models have a bit of a buff without stepping on the Primaris advantages. theprophetofwar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I think that’s likely going to be how it endsup yea. I think the transport restrictions will stay in place then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 if TWC are vets, extra wound too? Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) ...why wont regular marines go away already. The primaris will never get all the cool stuff until they're gone Edited August 13, 2020 by Excessus Don't try to fool the swear filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang_Guard23 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 if TWC are vets, extra wound too? they might keep TWC them the same wound count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiltedMarine Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Okay, this is all happy-making, for sure, I’ll be surprised to see non-vet firstborn units get another wound, but I do like the idea of veterans getting one, and 3W TDA reflects what terminators are supposed to be in the lore. I *really* like everybody getting Astartes chainswords- that -1 to saves makes a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Hopefully they will remember wolf guard pack leaders are vets. Then our Stormshield toting bullet tanks will be able to soak an extra failed save. All in all a good change I think, and reasonably balanced PeteySödes and Dark Shepherd 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 if TWC are vets, extra wound too? they might keep TWC them the same wound count I hope not as characters get the 2 wound bump from the mount too so extra wound would make sense As an elite I hope Wulfen get it too Someone in news thread is saying they have it from a good source that minimarine troops staying 1w Primaris troops looking like the way to go but O.G Elites could be stellar in 9th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Danjou Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 If our GH/BC gets two wounds there is no need to take Assault Intercessors, they will have far superior equipment with special weapons and power weapons. If they get -1 chainswords, as it looks, according to the leak, I will take them any day over Primaris. That is if they don't get transformed into standard tac-marines. Blood claws will also be crazy good with 2 wounds and -1 chainswords. The synergy with 2 wounds and -1ap chainswords is really too good for Space wolves. Let us not forget Sky claws who will also be crazy good with their increased survivability if they get 2 wounds and the better chainswords But then again we don't know how SW will look in the future. Will we have GH and BC or will they be ordinary tac-marines? Will we have to pay for chainswords? Will we loose the WG option? If only WG gets an extra wound, the ss will be better again. Just my rambling thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 That’s true atm danjou but I’d be shocked if assault intercesssors didn’t get some sort of trick/rule in the codex. It’s been pointed out a bunch in the astartes forum but the assault versions don’t have a ton going for them over reivers or OG intercessors. They’re surely better for us than most but I’m pulling for some sort of buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Rievers surely need a boost, but at they are just lost in the wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 ...why wont regular marines go away already. The primaris will never get all the cool stuff until they're goneThis game was built on the Firstborn, and while I expect the Primaris to become the mainline models, I don’t and hope they’ll never go away. Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Lord Blackwood, NightHowler, svane jotunsbane and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Wanting other peoples' armies to go away just so you can have better things is not okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2! Wounds for all 3 for termis On warcom. Wolves!!! Bloodclaws never left the menu boys!!! Karhedron, NightHowler, TiguriusX and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Full sized blood claw pack with 2 wound marines? Must theory craft ASAP! Fang_Guard23 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Throws dog treats all over the floor! Laughs maniacally Fang_Guard23 and NightHowler 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang_Guard23 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2! Wounds for all 3 for termis On warcom. Wolves!!! Bloodclaws never left the menu boys!!! YUP! the first born are going to survive, heavy bolters are Damage 2, chainswords are going to go have -1 ap. It's a good day to be a blood claw WrathOfTheLion 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/08/13/new-boxes-new-rules-new-codexes/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=40K&utm_content=40knewrules13082020 Fang_Guard23 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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