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Gav Thorpe - the Luther novel

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From what it sounds like, we'll be accompanying Luther throughout his life, by medium of various interrogations by the passing Grand Masters. It seems to be a first person narrative for the most part, too, if I understood things correctly.

 

It's basically a recipe for success, in my eyes. All the freedom to explore important moments, all with the benefit of hindsight-commentary and room for ambiguity.


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From what it sounds like, we'll be accompanying Luther throughout his life, by medium of various interrogations by the passing Grand Masters. It seems to be a first person narrative for the most part, too, if I understood things correctly.

It's basically a recipe for success, in my eyes. All the freedom to explore important moments, all with the benefit of hindsight-commentary and room for ambiguity.


I certainly hope this is true. I hope they dig into his pre Lion past , wasnt he married before the lion showed up?
Gavs best ever book was Lorgar, delving into the past and building a character from the bottom up.
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Just under halfway through, in terms of Gav’s other work, it’s closer to Lorgar that Indomitus; not quite hitting the heights of Valdor yet, but good.

That pre-Lion, the Order
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, might rile the usual suspects, but hopefully the reaction won’t overshadow folk’s enjoyment of the book.

Edited by aa.logan, 01 November 2020 - 05:49 AM.

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For my opinion

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Mine shipped today, so hopefully will get started on it this week. In the US, they always ship the day of release and not arrive the day, which is a bit disappointing.

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Proper review:
Luther follows in the path of last year’s Valdor. Not quite mainline Horus Heresy, obviously not a Primarch novel, but a welcome curiosity.

A series of vignettes from the life of the man who found the Lion, related to various Dark Angels from the Scouring to just before the Great Rift opening, this books is one of the best illustrations of how Astartes and the Imperium generally have degraded over time and how even in such a monolithic and moribund organisation change happens. Decay is change, right?

Luther must be a tricky character to write- notoriously brilliant and charismatic is hard to pull off. Thorpe gives him just the right amount of arrogance to make him charming, but as the book progresses his mask slips. Trapped in a statis field, even he isn’t immune to the decline of the Imperium either. As the book progresses he hints at his own brilliance once to often, and his easy confidence is replaced by self-justification and his stories, intended as allegorical lessons to those he deems below him become outright polemic, explaining his actions.

A nice, short novel that fleshes out a pretty-well documented character and satisfyingly ties together events from earlier in the series. Luther, never actually an Astartes, is depicted as a fittingly nuanced human- the book hints at a wider emotional life and a depth of personality and motivation that is lacking from many of his Legion contemporaries. Names crop up and are never mentioned again, adding to Luther’s sense of loss. This idea of being trapped between mortal and post-human leads the reader to consider what he has gained and what he left behind, which explains some of his choices.

Really very good.

Spoilers that folk will possibly focus on more:
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Sounds interesting.
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Just under halfway through, in terms of Gav’s other work, it’s closer to Lorgar that Indomitus; not quite hitting the heights of Valdor yet, but good.

That pre-Lion, the Order

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, might rule the usual suspects, but hopefully the reaction won’t overshadow folk’s enjoyment of the book.

 

Why would that matter at all? They are not Astartes I would assume.


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Does anyone know when this will start to ship? The GW website has been saying "Shipping in 6 days" for nearly a week



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Does anyone know when this will start to ship? The GW website has been saying "Shipping in 6 days" for nearly a week


Where do you live? I’ve had mine for 4 or 5 days.

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Does anyone know when this will start to ship? The GW website has been saying "Shipping in 6 days" for nearly a week


Where do you live? I’ve had mine for 4 or 5 days.

 

I'm in the UK (Kent). I'll e-mail them



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Mine just arrived today. Started on it, I like it thus far.


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My copy (along with Adeptus Titanicus Open Engine War) is still pending according to W website. Sigh. 


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Sounds interesting.

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I imagine it has more to do with Solar Auxilia being a pretty niche and quite recent Forge World invention with limited references elsewhere and literally nothing prior to their Black Book. Some authors probably don't even remember or know they exist. We rarely get that much information on Army units raised from Legion homeworlds outside of Ultramar and Prospero anyway, but it's definitely not an unreasonable assumption that a Primarch's 'following' who were women and men too old to become Astartes were formed into Solar Auxilia units.


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Does anyone know when this will start to ship? The GW website has been saying "Shipping in 6 days" for nearly a week


Where do you live? I’ve had mine for 4 or 5 days.

 

I'm in the UK (Kent). I'll e-mail them

 

 

Ive just had a reply from GW for anyone else in the same boat:

 

 

"There has been a slight glitch on our system that IT are currently working through with some orders for this product and I have been advised it will be dispatched shortly."



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Can I ask what the page count was for this limited edition?



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219 pages, although the story starts on page 7, after any preliminary pages.


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My order history still shows my order of the book as 'pending' - does that mean that it hasn't been mailed yet?

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My order history still shows my order of the book as 'pending' - does that mean that it hasn't been mailed yet?


Ya. It get updated once it shipped. My order from last week still hasn't shipped yet. :(


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Edited by Triszin, 07 November 2020 - 06:45 PM.

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Just finished the book last night with some thoughts

 

LE: It is a nicely presented LE book with a cool profile pic of Luther in the front. The use of "Caliban" green on the hard cover as well as the side of the pages gives it a nice theme that is well thought out. The only "art work" is a picture of Luther holding his sword with the tip resting on the ground with the creepy forests of Caliban in the back ground. Overall, I feel this is a solid LE book.

 

Story: I think I mentioned in the a previous post I am not particularly crazy about the DAs given the variable quality of their storyline in the HH series which may have been related to the different authors. I know Gav as written many but not all of the main DA stuff. I have always been interested in the Luther arc from second edition with his imprisonment on the Rock so the premise of this book got me excited.

 

In general, the story was excellent to outstanding. Gav does Luther as a first person perspective alternating with Luther's timeline as a prisoner on the rock with various DA chapter masters or grandmasters (or whatever title they use) through the ages and flashbacks of his past with some well-known HH events sprinkled in there for good measure. Gav hit it on the nail, the writing was just top form and I was engaged the the whole time. I don't think there were any "revelations" in the book and I really liked how Gav balanced the DA stuff and didn't make them particularly super secretive or this legion with all the cool tech etc. 

 

As far as side stories go, this is definitely one of my favorites and in terms of Gav's book it is up there with his Lorgar Primarch book. His earlier books on RG and DA were fine (nothing amazing but readable) but I strongly recommend this book. I really liked the ending as well which wasn't anything new but left the door open for a continuation. 


Edited by Izlude, 16 November 2020 - 01:30 PM.

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Sounds like exactly what we need! Can't wait for general release :)
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Finished this. Loved it. Gav at his best, I’ve been a fan of the order and old Caliban since those early heresy books. Gav can do great old school fantasy knights and he does them well here. Luther’s escape is obviously being left open to be told again at some future date.
The story of Luther’s captivity needed told and it’s been done marvellously here. Top marks. Sadly I don’t see many more opportunities for old Caliban stories in future books so it was nice to return there for this smattering of short tales.
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I hope its not too much of a bother but could I ask one of the frathers who has read the book to spoiler us a short summary? It'd be much appreciated :)
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Scroll up to see aa.logans short summary. ;)

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Yeah I was wondering if there was a bit more to it than just that x).
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If I say the book is just Luther telling stories in captivity to various Dark Angels over 10,000 years and seeing how they and he shift across time I’m underselling the book, but that’s essentially all it is.
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