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So I modeled a chaos lord from the primaris infiltrator kit and I'm pretty pleased with it. However my friends have given mixed feedback which sparked a debate leading to this thread. So now I ask you.. where do heretics put their chainweapons, in those rare instances when NOT in hand?

 

Lets assume this is a typical chainsword and in reality the bit is a normal bit. Do they prefer the thigh, the belt or the back? And does the weapon need to be on the oposite side of the gun hand and easily deployable in one swift movement?

 

Have at it!


Edited by Brom MKIV, 30 August 2020 - 08:58 PM.

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The mark III plastic marines have them attached to their backpack.


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Mag lock.


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I wouldn't say there was a consistent place, personally if I really needed to add one to a model then I would try and find where worked naturally with the pose of the rest of the model. Marines are all ambidextrous anyway aren't they? So either side would do. It's really hard to fit them at their waists as most chainsword parts are as long as a marine's leg anyway.
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Marine armor has mag locks everywhere. So wherever looks natural pretty much. The backpack is a natural place, lots of empty space and would be out of the way.


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I would suggest thigh or backpack - Chainswords are extremely bulky, and in the case of many Chaos ones double-edged, so having one at the waist would risk cutting into the soft armour of the thigh joint and abdomen.

 

On the thigh it would be in a similar position to how most swords in scabbards were actually worn (on straps descending from the waist rather than at the waist, to ease in movement & sitting) and makes sense for practicality and reach.

 

The backpack can also work. Though in general shoulder-scabbard type of stuff is the work of pure fantasy, having mag-locks and a metal lump of a backpack means not having a scabbard to clear and therefore makes the positioning fairly viable. The Adepta Sororitas Canoness even has a backpack-scabbard if you wanted inspiration for something more in line with flayed-skins-of-your-enemies stuff than a boring magnet.


 

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I modeled my chosen with bolters and chainswords on their belts and backpacks. Also if you have greenstuff handy you can make flesh coming out of various places and have them hold extra weapons.



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Excellent feedback thank you! So my take away so far is that the stowage is fairly open with regard to where the chainsword actually fits due to size of the sword and aesthetics.

This is the original position of the sword. Would it be more appropriate to be mounted on the left side on the back or on the belt?

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Edited by Brom MKIV, 31 August 2020 - 04:38 AM.

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The only reason that Bjorn is in a dreadnought is that he fought Chuck Norris and won but the backlash of that much awesome mortally wounded him.....
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So I modeled a chaos lord from the primaris infiltrator kit and I'm pretty pleased with it. However my friends have given mixed feedback which sparked a debate leading to this thread. So now I ask you.. where do heretics put their chainweapons, in those rare instances when NOT in hand?

 

 

I'm curious as to what their feedback was...I mean, it looks fine as it is. 


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I agree, based on that pic and angle he looks good!

Can’t really tell from the photo angle, but where does the sword attach? Lower backpack, or the back next to the pack?

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+1 to the posters above. He, the chaos lord, looks great!
I love the «clean» style and dig a chaos model that is not all skulls, spikes and chainsword.

Edid: not all skulls, spikes and chains. My autocorrect corrected chains to chainswords!!! I love that too!!

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Thanks for the kind words.

A couple liked the model and some others felt the chainsword position seemed unrealistic. Being located on the same side as the gun hand. And also hard to access. Lastly they felt it was too much bling.
My argument was he's infiltrating and not intending to deploy it at the time. Plus I wanted the sword displayed on his good side. Such a cool sword!

Anyway that led to multiple changes of the model and finally back again. The sword is intended to look Mag locked to the back pack. It currently sits slightly higher then in the above pic with the pommel touching one of the packs ports.

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The only reason that Bjorn is in a dreadnought is that he fought Chuck Norris and won but the backlash of that much awesome mortally wounded him.....
-Emptyedens
 

"My IG infantry would kill for bolters... but they have lasguns, so they can't" -stripeydave

 


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Well, unlike pistols, the most common "draw" is from the side opposite the one that will be wielding the weapon.  So, for someone that will be wielding a blade in the right hand, the blade is usually on the left hip. This is because which blades in scabbards, the full length of the weapon has be drawn in a straight line from the scabbard before the blade clears the scabbard, something that is physically quite difficult (unless the blade is quite short) if the blade in on the side that is drawing the blade.  So, having the blade on the right if it is going to be wielded in the left is actually the most common position to have it.

 

That said, from the position it is in it would be difficult to draw with either arm - a more realistic place to put it would be the hip (which likely isn't possible due to the position of him gun arm) or the same place but higher up so that the handle protrudes over his shoulder.


Edited by Dr_Ruminahui, 01 September 2020 - 02:55 PM.

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I guess I’d echo the “unrealistic” critique, though mine would stem from his inability to squat/crouch without the chainsword hitting the ground. Crouching is something he’d probably need to do, given his sneaky stealthy subversive nature.

That being said, there’s really no need to put that much thought into our toy soldiers. If they look cool, good enough. However, were this my model, I’d have it horizontally beneath his backpack.
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I agree with the good doctor. The sword should be mounted higher so it's accessible, or else moved to a different position.
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Thanks for the input guys. I had my own hangups with it and I'm getting ready to attempt my first airbrush based army so I wanted some new eyes within my own group and here. I'll try it on the right hip but sadly a different sword since the hilt modification left the exhaust side a little uglier. If not it will go left shoulder up high.

Edited by Brom MKIV, 01 September 2020 - 02:30 PM.

..All Space Marine legions and chapters, loyal and traitor, cast a shadow that resembles the Dark Angels.
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The only reason that Bjorn is in a dreadnought is that he fought Chuck Norris and won but the backlash of that much awesome mortally wounded him.....
-Emptyedens
 

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Have you guys ever tried getting a bottle of water out of the side pouch on a backpack? That would be harder than accessing that chainsword, as you have to go up, then out. Here you can grab the handle and then de-mag it, no issue. 

 

Is the keeping of the imperial icon on the chest because they're XX?


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Icon was overlooked honestly but it might stay because he is AL.

..All Space Marine legions and chapters, loyal and traitor, cast a shadow that resembles the Dark Angels.
-FerociousBeast

The only reason that Bjorn is in a dreadnought is that he fought Chuck Norris and won but the backlash of that much awesome mortally wounded him.....
-Emptyedens
 

"My IG infantry would kill for bolters... but they have lasguns, so they can't" -stripeydave

 


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Personally the only thing that sticks out to me is that the tip seems to be too close to the ground. Other than that it looks fine.

 

What I usually do is to put any melee weapon across their backs like this:

 

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It's a bit more difficult with chainswords though but it's doable.


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How big are those mk IV blades, are they combat knives or one bladed swords ?
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How big are those mk IV blades, are they combat knives or one bladed swords ?


Midway, defo more shortsword area than anything that could be described as a 'knife'. About the same size as a PA grey knight falchion if you know those?
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