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Space Marines - leaks and datasheets (updated)


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You heard it here first! Multimelta gets his dispersed mode back and becomes a 24" Heavy Flamer without auto-hit if you want to... /s


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You heard it here first! Multimelta gets his dispersed mode back and becomes a 24" Heavy Flamer without auto-hit if you want to... /s


Oh great, another thing Tau get to complain about ;)

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You heard it here first! Multimelta gets his dispersed mode back and becomes a 24" Heavy Flamer without auto-hit if you want to... /s

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You heard it here first! Multimelta gets his dispersed mode back and becomes a 24" Heavy Flamer without auto-hit if you want to... /s


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Plasma Cannon is Dmg2 base, Dmg3 overcharged... is this new, or a typo I wonder.

On the Plasma Cannon profile from the Devastator box it is only Dmg1 / Dmg2 Overcharged.... unless the SRG has a new special "Heavy" Plasma Cannon, then one of these is wrong.

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Plasma Cannon is Dmg2 base, Dmg3 overcharged... is this new, or a typo I wonder.

Nobody knows. Not even GW, judging by the state of these datasheets.

 

The way things are going I'm expecting to see an entry in the Marine Codex for Primarch Ghazgkull, returned from the Eye of Terror to lead his Necron subjects.


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Man I thought the 4 shots twin multimelta was a typo and I was ready to cash in on the comedy. Then I remembered thats actually the new stats...

As for the plasma, the raven has "heavy plasma cannons" which could explain the difference in damage.
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So heavy PCs might actually have it's own different profile? Terribly interesting.

 

For context, Heavy Plasma Cannons and standard Plasma Cannons (at least in the BA codex) have the same stats except the heavy just dispenses a mortal wound while the standard kills the bearer outright. So maybe they're replacing the overcharge option with one rule and then separating each through stats?


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The macro plasma incinerator (Redemptor Dreadnought) and heavy plasma incinerator (Hellblasters) are both 2 damage pre-supercharge. It might well be that plasma cannons are all going up to 2 damage, whether they're the heavy version or not and the damage 1 on the Devastators is a typo. That would match with the Primaris versions.

 

Of course, the rest of the Devastator datasheet is really accurate with absotutely no typos rolleyesclean.gif , so who knows.



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Humm, the multi-melta has double the shots as expected but just the D6 damage and not D6+2.

Plasma also seems to have it's overcharged profile which is strange because hellblasters didn't.

Very strange inconsistencies with these datasheets and not just typos.

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Humm, the multi-melta has double the shots as expected but just the D6 damage and not D6+2.
Plasma also seems to have it's overcharged profile which is strange because hellblasters didn't.
Very strange inconsistencies with these datasheets and not just typos.


The +2 is only when within half range, so it’s a special feature of the weapon, and not on these data sheets.


Feel like it’s been mentioned numerous times that special abilities are not on these sheets.
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In the same way the necron heat ray doesn't have any melta rules. These sheets are by no way complete, just gives us a flavour of what's coming. If it's the case in October I'd be amazed
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Couple of interesting comments from the recent Auspex Tactics video on the Devastator datasheet:

 

Just to mention it has been pointed out to me that there are some weird discrepancies with the Japanese name of the unit, apparently it reads 'Redemptor Dreadnought'. It might be a GW copy-paste error, but it's not impossible that the datasheet is a fake.

 

 

@Auspex Tactics - My uncle works for GW and when I pointed this out to him he asked, “Can you tell me where specifically the data sheet you’re talking about is wrong?” I showed him and he stated that it was some kind of initiative to stop leaks and that various places got specifically incorrect data sheets in order to weed out suspected leakers. Just a heads up to protect your sources.

 

 

Obviously there is no way of knowing if random internet commenter's uncle really does work for GW, but the idea of an actually concerted effort to weed out leakers using fake datasheets is plausible.

I think we need to take all new datasheet leaks with a massive pinch of salt unless a Frater from this forum actually goes out and buys a kit themselves.


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But in the context of datasheets from boxes, that makes no sense? As I argued above, these aren't leaks in the usual sense, they are the actual releases.
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Couple of interesting comments from the recent Auspex Tactics video on the Devastator datasheet:

 

Just to mention it has been pointed out to me that there are some weird discrepancies with the Japanese name of the unit, apparently it reads 'Redemptor Dreadnought'. It might be a GW copy-paste error, but it's not impossible that the datasheet is a fake.

 

 

@Auspex Tactics - My uncle works for GW and when I pointed this out to him he asked, “Can you tell me where specifically the data sheet you’re talking about is wrong?” I showed him and he stated that it was some kind of initiative to stop leaks and that various places got specifically incorrect data sheets in order to weed out suspected leakers. Just a heads up to protect your sources.

 

 

Obviously there is no way of knowing if random internet commenter's uncle really does work for GW, but the idea of an actually concerted effort to weed out leakers using fake datasheets is plausible.

I think we need to take all new datasheet leaks with a massive pinch of salt unless a Frater from this forum actually goes out and buys a kit themselves.

 

The whole "my uncle works for" is a an Internet joke..

 

As you can go out and buy the units in the shop right now with the new datasheets how would it help to weed out leakers. Gw has quality assurance issues with their writing all the time, it's just that. No grand plan.


Edited by ST.Lazarus, 30 August 2020 - 07:59 AM.

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Yeah their uncle works in the mullarkey department
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Yeah their uncle works in the mullarkey department

 

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So it seems this has dried up somewhat. Does anyone know of a site still reporting new information we can add to this topic?

Or I might just have to buy some "Relic" Terminators that are repackaged so I get the new rules ;)
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But in the context of datasheets from boxes, that makes no sense? As I argued above, these aren't leaks in the usual sense, they are the actual releases.



Are they? Anyone tried using these sheets in a competative game? To me these data sheets just muddy the rules and make the game seem like a joke.

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They're the instructions in the boxes as currently released. But they won't go 'live' until the codex is released.
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