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[BadgersinHills]

 

One of the new Crusade relics is the Spear of Russ. So coool. I'm so excited for this. I'm tempted to model a Wolf Lord with the Spear now. 

 

@Bulwyf: I'm sorry to hear that you've met those difficult people. I hope you find better opponents to play with!

 

Thank you. My regular opponents are great guys and gals. They know I don't care about WYSIWYG and that I point everything out in a list and don't try to play hide the special weapon in a squad so it doesn't really matter. Some of them are sticklers about WYSIWYG for their own armies but they know I don't hold them to that. 

 

My situation with the TO was unfortunate and one of the main reasons why I will never play in a tournament again.

 

 

Glad to hear that! May your Wolves win much glory and cut many threads of the Emperor's enemies! Fenrys Hjolda! 

[TheUnlikelyGamer84]

Oh my Allfather! The mark of the wulfen! My crusade force has wulfen in it already and a couple of my characters have earned battle honors. I’ll take this next and have a ridiculous number of attacks. My character may need a nickname. Thorvald “The whirling death”.

[PeteySödes]

=][=  WYSIWYG is not pertinent to this thread. Move on. =][= 

[FabulousRex]

So I'm seriously looking at adding 3 VenDreads for fire support for my foot and pod army.

Is the new Helfrost worth taking over the twin lascannon? 36" with 3+d3 Dmg is pretty reliable, but only 1 shot and S8, but also much cheaper and Chapter Specific...

[Dark Shepherd]

Ven dreads are also core which is useful if warlords are around, and they only have to get to midboard

[TiguriusX]

I think the best venerable is a multi melta + great wolf claw

Outflank it with a wolf lord packing morkai bolts and a chaplain

BS2 melta with rerolls

Charge in needing 7s

WS2 great claw reroll hits/wounds

Big boy is going to do some serious damage

*i have been facing a ton of harlequins and skyweavers in my meta...if I don't outflank it is dead from haywire

Edited by TiguriusX, 30 October 2020 - 05:07 PM.

[Havok13]

I think the best venerable is a multi melta + great wolf claw

Outflank it with a wolf lord packing morkai bolts and a chaplain

BS2 melta with rerolls

Charge in needing 7s

WS2 great claw reroll hits/wounds

Big boy is going to do some serious damage

*i have been facing a ton of harlequins and skyweavers in my meta...if I don't outflank it is dead from haywire

Wouldn't the chaplain/wolf priest have to be on the board at the command phase to get the 7" charge?

[FabulousRex]

I think the best venerable is a multi melta + great wolf claw

Outflank it with a wolf lord packing morkai bolts and a chaplain

BS2 melta with rerolls

Charge in needing 7s

WS2 great claw reroll hits/wounds

Big boy is going to do some serious damage

*i have been facing a ton of harlequins and skyweavers in my meta...if I don't outflank it is dead from haywire

That is an excellent point, the new MM is a pretty mean gun. Its also pretty expensive, but it's 2 shots really help against 3w Infantry spam.

Agreed on the Claw! I kinda want to take chapter Specific stuff for fun, but still be competitive. I'm also taking 2 or 3 of these guys, perhaps I'll mix and match.

[TiguriusX]

I think the best venerable is a multi melta + great wolf claw

Outflank it with a wolf lord packing morkai bolts and a chaplain

BS2 melta with rerolls

Charge in needing 7s

WS2 great claw reroll hits/wounds

Big boy is going to do some serious damage

*i have been facing a ton of harlequins and skyweavers in my meta...if I don't outflank it is dead from haywire

Wouldn't the chaplain/wolf priest have to be on the board at the command phase to get the 7" charge?

Nope

New SM stratagem let's you activate a litany in any phase

No roll either...auto activation

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

Yeah gaining access to more units and stratagems from the marine book is great for list building.

[Havok13]

I think the best venerable is a multi melta + great wolf claw

Outflank it with a wolf lord packing morkai bolts and a chaplain

BS2 melta with rerolls

Charge in needing 7s

WS2 great claw reroll hits/wounds

Big boy is going to do some serious damage

*i have been facing a ton of harlequins and skyweavers in my meta...if I don't outflank it is dead from haywire

Wouldn't the chaplain/wolf priest have to be on the board at the command phase to get the 7" charge?

Nope

New SM stratagem let's you activate a litany in any phase

No roll either...auto activation

I ain't played any 9th games yet, this makes me very happy. Thanks for heads up.

[Karhedron]

I think the best venerable is a multi melta + great wolf claw

I am torn between the Ven Dread and the Contemptor. The Ven is more wolfy but the 5++ on the Contemptor is not too shabby at all.

[TiguriusX]

I think the best venerable is a multi melta + great wolf claw

I am torn between the Ven Dread and the Contemptor. The Ven is more wolfy but the 5++ on the Contemptor is not too shabby at all.

My 2nd favorite codex dread is a wulfen dreads with 2 heavy flamers a great claw + blizzard shield

It is not core so I send it off alone to get engage on all fronts and basically be a distraction carnifex. Low PL means 1 CP also let's you outflank 2 cyber wolves at the same time. So 3 turns of easy engage on all fronts point.

Flamers have 12" range now so it can roast hordes on arrival.

It can try a yolo charge with a free reroll.

If it survives to see combat it hits in 2 and rerolls wounds.

Not bad for a non core unit!

[PeteySödes]

Gah I just looked at the NZ codex contents and looks like my hopes were dashed for seperate wolf Priests datasheets. Looks like strat support only.

[VIth]

Gah I just looked at the NZ codex contents and looks like my hopes were dashed for seperate wolf Priests datasheets. Looks like strat support only.

Can we make a chief Wolf Priest and if so can it do any apothecary things or just preachy things?

[PeteySödes]

Well we got the healing balms strat and yea we can give them the master of sanctity upgrade (for now at least) so we’ll see what else they get with the wolf priest keyword.

[Wispy]

 

Is Frostfang a frost sword or just has frost in the title and that caused a misconception? Or was it model design?
8th ed codex of strange scenario of Frost Swords being depicted as larger chainswords but anyone running Frost Swords probably just painted a power sword blue. Frost Axes and Claws were blued up rather than chained up too

Frostfang is the original frost blade, although it was not originally described as such. In 2nd edition it was simply a special chainsword made from an unknown metal by Fergus Forgrimm. In 3rd edition generic frost blades became a thing, either axe or sword, and all were described as using ice kraken fangs for their chainsaw blades. Frostfang at that time was just a master crafted frost blade. Later editions developed the fluff to include the current description of frost blades to either be kraken fanged chainblades or specially treated energized diamond that looks like ice.

 

 

Chiming in on the History Lesson! 

 

A lot of the lore from 2E were prototypical and is not strictly canon, as a lot of the specifics of Space Wolves lore did not solidify until Third Edition and 5th Edition. Frostblades didn't exist as a concept until 3e, and Frostfang's lore was retconned to accommodate this. 

 

 

[Bulwyf]

Seeing the snippets from the old books really got me in the nostalgia feels.

[Closet Skeleton]

Before Eviscerator became the standard term for a two-handed chain sword, the Inquisitor skirmish game oddly had Frost Blades as generic equipment anyone could use to fill in the two handed chain weapon space.

[Vassakov]

https://www.goonhamm...nhammer-review/

Goonhammer review is up.

Overall... I'm pretty happy. The buff to Tempestus is nice, losing Fury of the Wild hurts and looks like Wulfen are basically dead competitively.

We win some and lose some, but I think overall its a winner and definitely better than our 8th edition codex.

[Castle Wolfenstein]

I used touch of the wild exactly once. Thanks a lot COVID.

[PeteySödes]

I used touch of the wild exactly once. Thanks a lot COVID.

Hah right? At least my one time was one shoting a bloodthirster so it won’t easily be forgotten.

[Dark Shepherd]

I used touch of the wild exactly once. Thanks a lot COVID.

Hah right? At least my one time was one shoting a bloodthirster so it won’t easily be forgotten.

SOTB came out the day after Ireland locked down and mine was ship to store 😂😂😂

Also Lone Wolf has gone to Crusade rules

[PeteySödes]

Another one I got to use like once in all of 8th though I played an absurd amount. It hurts to say but If we were only going to get a handful of strats I’m ok with lone wolf moving to crusade.

[Triszin]

Another one I got to use like once in all of 8th though I played an absurd amount. It hurts to say but If we were only going to get a handful of strats I’m ok with lone wolf moving to crusade.

ya, but still. *sad puppy face*.

 

VBG with lone wolf strat popped .

Edited by Triszin, 31 October 2020 - 02:47 PM.