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Imperial Armour Compendium Speculation/ Spoilers?


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I’m guessing with it being said before it’s all four of the IAI books’ datasheets from 8th ed getting updated, it’s going to have only updated datasheets from those four books, and possibly not all of the datasheets from them as there’s thoughts a number of those datasheets are getting Legend out.

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GW current policy is to only write rules for models they make, the rest go to legends.  Even the rules themselves have to match the model for the most part.  So I expect a lot of stuff to go to legends or simply disappear like Hareth Shen and other things we have had in the past.  I mean should we expect anything else?  Im mostly interested in what they do with land raiders and dreadnoughts.



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Looks like this is goodbye to my Siege Dreadnought :( Or  more to the point, hello "counts as", assuming I ever get to play, that is.


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RIP Death Korps Grenadiers
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Death korps looks absolutely gutted if you don’t play with legends options.

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Interesting that the Land Raider Achilles is listed. 



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Looks like this is goodbye to my Siege Dreadnought :( Or more to the point, hello "counts as", assuming I ever get to play, that is.


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Well, it says if it doesnt have a datasheet-- its getting one in legends. So, ill be able to take stuff like my chinork out for a spin in narrative games at least.
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They kept the Whirlwind Scorpius and the Vindicator Laser Destroyer, but left out the Deimos Predator Executioner and Infernus? sigh... If they don't turn up in Legends, I'm brewing up my own rules for 'em.
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Really sad to see the Maynarkh characters consigned to oblivion. And Sonic Dreadnoughts gone...


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Shame they didnt include the Sabre tank



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Oh wow, the Guard list has been gutted. Bye bye Leman Russ Conqueror and Annihilator. I assume the Death Korps will use the regular Guard datasheets from the Codex for any overlaps. Still, that's a lot of stuff lost. Even the named Marshall is gone.

That new doctrine for them doesn't look particularly great either. :-/
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I knew it was coming, but if is bittersweet to see the Repressor officially gone for Sororitas.
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Some of the dropped sheets may also be transitioning to 40k proper. It's doubtful, but it's possible; I had thought the Avenger would be a good candidate for plastic, but it looks like it's still in the compendium so I guess not.


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Contemptor Mortis is gone, which is a shame as that's a good unit - and I've got one. Guess I'll need to get some new arms for that guy unless the Relic contemptor can still take quad guns.

 

I was also vaguely thinking of converting a Land Raider Prometheus. Won't do that, since it no-longer exists.

 

The basic rule seems to be that things they sell get to go in the book (mostly - the Achilles seems to have slipped through). I can see the logic in this. The things that FW no-longer sells are often being offered by recasters, and you can see why they might not like that.


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I wonder if Death Guard can no longer take the majority of options from Chaos Marines, as the Greater Blight Drone (p. 120) is repeated in their section as "Death Guard Greater Blight Drone" (p. 145).


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This has me convinced Imperial Guard won’t be getting their revamp anytime soon.
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Well, I'm gonna say I'm a pretty unhappy camper. Lack of rules for the sabre has stopped that purchase, lack of Mechanicus kills that idea, missing dread and pred rules annoy me from the perspective of previous purchases, no mention of Badab War CT or strats. I've got so many invectives for the fumble that this is.

 

Edit: It was pointed out there may be a spot for Badab CT under chapters of Renown, here's to hoping Firehawks get their hand flamers back.


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Oh damn, literally nothing i hoped for got in... While Corsairs might make it to legends you know the Sisters of Silence or Mechanicum stuff wont :/ 

Glad Death riders and all their command bits are still in there though!


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I don't get the logic behind leaving out the Deimos Predator. It's not out of production.

 

Were they worried the new weapon rules made them too overepowered for competitive games?


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Man, lotta lost datasheets. RIP Contemptor-Mortis and Mortis Dreads.

 

Interesting that the Land Raider Achilles is listed. 

Iirc, someone asked Forge World's Facebook page about the Achilles being removed from the website and they said it was a mould retool/fix.

 

They kept the Whirlwind Scorpius and the Vindicator Laser Destroyer, but left out the Deimos Predator Executioner and Infernus? sigh... If they don't turn up in Legends, I'm brewing up my own rules for 'em.

Might just be listed under the Relic Predator? Which is.... What it was in 8th Edition?

 

Well, I'm gonna say I'm a pretty unhappy camper. Lack of rules for the sabre has stopped that purchase, lack of Mechanicus kills that idea, missing dread and pred rules annoy me from the perspective of previous purchases, no mention of Badab War CT or strats. I've got so many invectives for the fumble that this is.

Notice there's a two page entry for Marines listed as "Chapters of Renown". That might be the Badab War Chapter Tactics.


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They kept the Whirlwind Scorpius and the Vindicator Laser Destroyer, but left out the Deimos Predator Executioner and Infernus? sigh... If they don't turn up in Legends, I'm brewing up my own rules for 'em.

Might just be listed under the Relic Predator? Which is.... What it was in 8th Edition?

There is no Predator listed in the table of contents, Relic or otherwise. The forgeworld predator variants are strictly 30k units now.

The only datasheet with "Relic" in the name is the Loyalist Contemptor.
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Contemptor Mortis is gone, which is a shame as that's a good unit - and I've got one. Guess I'll need to get some new arms for that guy unless the Relic contemptor can still take quad guns.

 

I was also vaguely thinking of converting a Land Raider Prometheus. Won't do that, since it no-longer exists.

 

The basic rule seems to be that things they sell get to go in the book (mostly - the Achilles seems to have slipped through). I can see the logic in this. The things that FW no-longer sells are often being offered by recasters, and you can see why they might not like that.

 

Relic contemptors can take guns on both arms.  So they are basically stuffing every contemptor into the Relic Contemptor data sheet I assume, except for the SM Codex version which is plastic and not "Relic"  I am curious if the Relic rule is even there now.   I noticed the Leviathan is no longer "Relic".






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