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Wowza, DW in vanguard and RW in Outrider detachments get Obsec! A very cool crusade fallen interrogation rule too.

All here: https://www.warhamme...ecadence-decay/
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Says it in the article he’s attached, can’t wait for this to drop
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It is the single change that makes DW and RW forces properly able to compete in the new double layer objective game. In the same month that my newest army codex is released as well (drukhari) I'm stoked.
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Wowza, DW in vanguard and RW in Outrider detachments get Obsec! A very cool crusade fallen interrogation rule too.

All here: https://www.warhamme...ecadence-decay/


Yay!
I feel lucky 😄

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Until the Sword is reforged


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If we are lucky most of the useless anti fallen rules will be part of the crusade part and not im mached play anymore making room for something we would actually use.

 

But overall I keep my hopes low and wait a couple of weeka after the release for the incomming nerf. After all LVO isn't canceled jet.


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OMG, Fallen Rules!!

 

I can't wait to NEVER use them since there is literally (and I do mean that LITERALLY) only ONE known person in my entire country that plays Fallen.... One squad of 5.

 

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Other reveals, are good as well. Mark me down as excited and intrigued.


Edited by Berzul, 21 November 2020 - 03:21 PM.

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"Fiat lux!"
- Battle cry of the Wings of Dawn, a Dark Angel's Successor Chapter

 

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You can read the developing narrative of the Wings of Dawn, as played out in this currently

ongoing Urban Conquest Crusade campaign: "The Conquest of Exelia Tertius".

 


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I'm happy and excited for the fallen stuff. My best mate has a decent sized force of them 😁

Edit: just need the chaos codex now.

Edited by G8Keeper, 21 November 2020 - 04:48 PM.

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I truly hope we will get a Fallen Codex one day.


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"Fiat lux!"
- Battle cry of the Wings of Dawn, a Dark Angel's Successor Chapter

 

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You can read the developing narrative of the Wings of Dawn, as played out in this currently

ongoing Urban Conquest Crusade campaign: "The Conquest of Exelia Tertius".

 


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I don't get the fallen stuff either... Hatred against chaos made sense. Fallen players are just too rare.

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I like how they’re making it lore specific, I’ve got a small Fallen collection so we can always play narrative games at home, having some crusade rules for them will be great

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One thing that makes me wonder:  (quote from Warhammer Community) "You’ll also be able to:Initiate units (including Dreadnoughts!) into the Deathwing".

Obviously it's just talking about Dread and maybe LRs since everyone knows all infantry in Deathwing uses Terminator suits..... except they don't.

From what I read it seems other units could be introduced to Deathwing, is it reasonable?

Going by reason, Deathwing induction needs to do something to vehicles as well, since it mentions Dreads( and I doubt they can get the "wound on 4+" rule ).

Even if some of our battle brothers will see ( Blood Angel) red at me saying this, I suspect we will see the current Inner Circle stay the same, but it will apply to only some units of the DW ( characters and termies, maybe with a point bump), while other units inducted will have something else.



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I truly hope we will get a Fallen Codex one day.

A codex for a faction that was never an army but just some scattered individuals?

Yes it makes sense


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I truly hope we will get a Fallen Codex one day.

A codex for a faction that was never an army but just some scattered individuals?
Yes it makes sense

While it will probably never happen, lore wise you’re not quite on the mark,

The fallen are gathering at legion strength in the imperium nihilis so tens of thousands! and there’s always been sizeable war bands of them roaming around just like how the black legion are anywhere from war bands of say fifty to a few thousand, they then gather together when abaddon calls them to war. the fallen are somewhat the same but also have cases to solo marines leading war bands or being mercenaries etc

a supplement lore wise really isn’t a stretch though! especially not now with the current legion sized lore

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I truly hope we will get a Fallen Codex one day.

A codex for a faction that was never an army but just some scattered individuals?

Yes it makes sense

 

The current lore supports the idea of the Fallen starting to form a true army. Legion even.

So, yeah, it does make sense.

The sarcasm is as unappreciated as the overall contribution of your comment.


"Fiat lux!"
- Battle cry of the Wings of Dawn, a Dark Angel's Successor Chapter

 

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You can read the developing narrative of the Wings of Dawn, as played out in this currently

ongoing Urban Conquest Crusade campaign: "The Conquest of Exelia Tertius".

 


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More seriously, if they have rules for The Purge and The Flawless Host, why couldn't the Fallen end up in a book somewhere with a decent list?


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It is the single change that makes DW and RW forces properly able to compete in the new double layer objective game. In the same month that my newest army codex is released as well (drukhari) I'm stoked.

 

I have some Drukhari from my KT.... will be hard to resist expanding into them too!

 

Poor wallet. Start saving now...!


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I like the Deathwing being all terminators, but they now have Blade Guard Veterans, okay not a fan but I'll accept it .... but now Vanguard? Nah.


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I like the Deathwing being all terminators, but they now have Blade Guard Veterans, okay not a fan but I'll accept it .... but now Vanguard? Nah.

 

Not Vanguard Primaris...Vanguard Detachment. The one where you take 3 Elites as your mandatory choice and can take up to 6.

 

At least I hope I am right.


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I like the Deathwing being all terminators, but they now have Blade Guard Veterans, okay not a fan but I'll accept it .... but now Vanguard? Nah.

 

Not Vanguard Primaris...Vanguard Detachment. The one where you take 3 Elites as your mandatory choice and can take up to 6.

 

At least I hope I am right.

 

 

Oh thanks! I hope you are right too! lol.


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Cpt_reaper you’re right don’t worry!

what’s it’s saying is now ours wings get ObSec if we build around them, so three squads of DW in a Vanguard Detachment will now get ObSec, same goes for RW in an Outrider

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If I had to guess, then I imagine what they will do is to make DEATHWING INFANTRY units ObSec in a Vanguard Detachment, and RAVENWING BIKER units ObSec in an Outrider detachment. Can’t imagine they’d let Dreadnoughts or Land Speeders get ObSec...that would be a bit over the top!

The other restriction is that the detachment would have to be led by an appropriate character. In previous editions this would have been Sammael and Belial, but I’d hope this would expanded to include Talon Masters and perhaps...a Deathwing Lt? One can dream!

The “Launch faster and more deadly Ravenwing assaults” is also an interesting phrase. “Faster” might refer to game turn, so perhaps some kind of outflanking manoeuvre turn 1? The “more deadly” might also refer to damage bonuses, or perhaps to hit bonuses. Either way, bring on December and the codex previews!
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I like the Deathwing being all terminators, but they now have Blade Guard Veterans, okay not a fan but I'll accept it .... but now Vanguard? Nah.

 

Not Vanguard Primaris...Vanguard Detachment. The one where you take 3 Elites as your mandatory choice and can take up to 6.

 

At least I hope I am right.

 

 

Oh thanks! I hope you are right too! lol.

 

Now the specialistic detachments (based on mandatory elite, Fast attack or heavy support) never refund  their CP cost even if the warlord is in that detachments

Maybe the DA will have a rule to build a vanguard for DW or outrider for RW with a refund the CP cost if the warlord is in that detachment

It would be amazing


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So tall brethren outrider detachment of 3 Primaris Outrider units and a Primaris Chaplain on Bike clocks at 520pts. So for 2CP and 520pts you get ObSec on all 10 models. Each squad having T5 and 15W at 3+ its not a bad deal. Hoping they will get the RW jink or a reworked version.


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I truly hope we will get a Fallen Codex one day.

A codex for a faction that was never an army but just some scattered individuals?

Yes it makes sense

 

The current lore supports the idea of the Fallen starting to form a true army. Legion even.

So, yeah, it does make sense.

The sarcasm is as unappreciated as the overall contribution of your comment.

 

I hope they will never make a fallen army cause it would be ugly as an idea and it would fire more sarcasm about the traitor DA that tired me to hell

So Fallen for me are not an army... They are just traitors that deserve to repent and die


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"Launch faster" - remember when all RW bikes got scout moves?

"more deadly" - now this really could be anything from a RW keyword wide rule to a buff to corvus hammers or something smaller like the grenade launcher being more useful again. Conjecture abound!
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