How do you like to Serve your Plague Marine Squads?

[Debauchery101]

Do you go full KO thunderers and take 1-2 of each option? Or just sigil and bolters? Somewhere I between with some synergy in mind?

 

I haven't aged enough games yet to really get a good feel. I have ran 2 and sometimes 3 full squads. I play Deathwatch with lots of vets and always load up the squad. I always get the voice in my head arguing over all plasma or all melta plus blight launchers..but it adds up quick

The sigil and bolters is eh ok I guess. It's same thing as the infiltrators guns.

So far I've ran them ....

My close combat setup

Champ-fist, bolter, sword

2 melta, blight launcher, icon, 2 fails and cleaver- in rhino

 

My camper setup

Champ-plasma, sword

2 plasma, sigil, icon, 5 bolter marines

 

My ranged damage unit I push up with screens

Champ- plasma, fist, sword

2 melta, 2 blight launchers, icon, 1 flail, 3 bolters

 

DG is turning into DW in a way. So many options to try and use. Attrition based table control with a more elite army seems to take a lot of playing and testing to get into a groove you like. Honestly I like the idea of using daemon engines more than infantry but wondering if the 'must take' blight lords should be the trade off vs less troops choices

[Tokugawa]

Launcher+plasma. If points are not enough, always ensure launcher before plasmaguns.

[Blasphem]

I recommand you to check GeneralJanis videos on Youtube, he did lot of math-hammer and stats for new Death Guard Codex.

For example, this video amongs others proving than Sigil is worthless. for 10 pts you gain more damage output by just taking a Blightlauncher than a sigil to boost 10 bolters.

 

Personnaly I dont like to go for multiple fullsquad of 10 (beware blast weapons), just take one so you can use it as a death star (Cloud of Fly on it + Tallyman's Toolkeeper and other stratagems) but no more.

 

About weapon choice :

Range build ?

- Blight-launcher > Plasma > others.

Melee build ?

- Footslooging ? Blight-launcher > Flails > Cleaves > Dual Knives > others.

- Rhino ? Flails > Cleaves > dual Knives > others.

[McElMcNinja]

For a few games I’ve run a 10 man squad with 2 flails & 2 cleavers. They haven’t gotten into any combat and have only shot a couple times.

In the last game I was using them to preform Data Intercept (mission secondary) and screen my back field. It felt like a waste of points, but over the coarse of the game they scored me 15 points. After the game I asked why he never went after them and he said he didn’t want to get close to them. So really those extra points I spent on the melee weapons paid off.

[Plaguecaster]

I will be running 7 man squads with 2 plasmaguns(one on champ) blight launcher and icon. Still don't know what would be better a power fist on the champ or a plague flai on a separate plague marine so even if the champ dies there's still a decent melee weapon in the squad

[Debauchery101]

I will be running 7 man squads with 2 plasmaguns(one on champ) blight launcher and icon. Still don't know what would be better a power fist on the champ or a plague flai on a separate plague marine so even if the champ dies there's still a decent melee weapon in the squad

the fist/sword Champ gets the extra attack bonus for 2 weapons so I feel it's the better option. You'll be wounding t5 on 2+ with your fist

[Marshal Loss]

 

I will be running 7 man squads with 2 plasmaguns(one on champ) blight launcher and icon. Still don't know what would be better a power fist on the champ or a plague flai on a separate plague marine so even if the champ dies there's still a decent melee weapon in the squad

the fist/sword Champ gets the extra attack bonus for 2 weapons so I feel it's the better option. You'll be wounding t5 on 2+ with your fist

 

Plague Champion doesn't get the bonus attack as Vectors of Death only 1) applies to two melee Plague Weapons, 2) explicitly affects Plague Marines (aka everybody but the Champion) and 3) increases the attack stat to 3 rather than giving +1, which means it would have no impact on a Champion regardless of the above.

[Debauchery101]

 

 

 

I will be running 7 man squads with 2 plasmaguns(one on champ) blight launcher and icon. Still don't know what would be better a power fist on the champ or a plague flai on a separate plague marine so even if the champ dies there's still a decent melee weapon in the squad

the fist/sword Champ gets the extra attack bonus for 2 weapons so I feel it's the better option. You'll be wounding t5 on 2+ with your fist

Plague Champion doesn't get the bonus attack as Vectors of Death only 1) applies to two melee Plague Weapons, 2) explicitly affects Plague Marines (aka everybody but the Champion) and 3) increases the attack stat to 3 rather than giving +1, which means it would have no impact on a Champion regardless of the above.

I thought about that right after, cuz I went to do math hammer on the flail and I forgot to get back to correct that. I must been thinking how he naturally has an extra. Plus it's a power fist. The plague marine champ has to be one of the best models in the codex. Plasma gun, sword and fist. There ain't 1 situation he can't be a threat

[Debauchery101]

One setup I used today that turned out well for me vs harlequins and blood angels was

Malignant caster

Foul Blightspawn

2x 5 Plague marines-sgt w/fist, sword and plasma gun, 1 blight laucher, 1 plasma gun

Terrax Termite