Help me finish this DA 1750 list

[Berzul]

Hey everyone!

 

Please, I need help finishing up this 1750 list for an upcoming tournament, please. The point of the list being resilience.

 

Company Master

+ Jump Pack

+ Thunder Hammer

+ Master Crafted Bolter

+ Rites of Initiation

+ Warlord: The Imperium's Sword

+ Paragon of the Chapter (-1CP): Stubborn Tenacity

 

Lieutenant

+ Jump Pack

+ Heavenfall Blade

+ Plasma Pistol

+ Hero of the Chapter (-1CP): Calibanite Knight

 

5-man Tactical Squad

5-man Tactical Squad

5-man Tactical Squad

 

10-man Deathwing Knights Squad

 

Deathwing Ancient

+ Storm Bolter and Power Fist

+ Relics of the Chapter (-1CP): Pennant of Remembrance

 

Apothecary

 

5-man Black Knights Squad

 

3-man Attack Bikes Squad

+ Multi Melta

+ Multi Melta

+ Multi Melta

 

So far this is a Battalion, with a starting 9CP after stratagems, and is at 1530 points. Leaves me 220 points.

 

I am thinking about maybe:

 

1) adding my sixth and las Black Knight? For extra firepower and squad size.

2) getting another Tactical Squad? To make two teams of two squads, and spread them out over objectives?

3) bringing in a Darkshroud to guard the bikes? Since I really need them to survive on the board.

4) bringing in a Landspeeder Vengeance for more plasma firepower? Simcce this list does not have that much firepower overall.

5) Something else?

 

Thank you for any advice!

Edited February 16, 2021 by Brother Tyler
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[Brother Ramael]

well, just some ideas:

 

Swap the Lieut for a Int Chaplain (+15 pts), instead of the blade you can get the new crozius relic, which brings him to S8, so you can save on the Calibanite Knight CP and use it for the Master Apo: it has about the same punch as the lieutenant but can buff better imho; if you want to buff the DWK instead  maybe the Chalice is better somehow?

I'd drop 4 DWK and swap them with a 5 man DW termies squad with AC and a Watcher and withthe remaining point put in a Redemptor Dread.

another option for that CP would be giving Rites of War to the Ancient and have a scoring DWK unit.

[Berzul]

I like this idea. The 5 terminators I have, but I am not sure about them. The rest of the ideas sound awesome.

 

How is this?

1) I could run the 10-man DKW squad, with the Ancient for the Pennant, and the Apothecary.
2) Take out the Lieutenant (which removes the 1s to reroll wounds on the bikes, saddly)

3) Add an Interrogator Chaplain with Master of Sanctity, The Cup of Retribution, Mantra of Strength, Exhortation of Rage, and with Rites of War through Hero of the Chapter.

 

This way I can start the DWKs on the board. They retain their 1+/4++/6+++ saves, plus the -1D when hit. I can bring one back for 1CP a turn, and heal the wounded ones along the way. The Master of Sanctity makes them Objective Secured, gives them +1A once per battle, then +1 to Wound. Later on he can buff himself through Mantra of Strength, although, he is acting as a support character for the knights, not so much as a melee character himself.

 

The list would look something like this:

 

+++ +++ +++

 

Company Master
+ Jump Pack
+ Thunder Hammer
+ Master Crafted Bolter
+ Rites of Initiation
+ Warlord: The Imperium's Sword
+ Paragon of the Chapter (-1CP): Stubborn Tenacity

Interrogator-Chaplain
+ Crozius Arcanum
+ Bolt Pistol

+ Cup of Retribution
+ Hero of the Chapter (-1CP): Master of Sanctity

+ Hero of the Chapter (-1CP): Rites of War

+ Litanies: Exhortation of Rage, Mantra of Strength

 

5-man Tactical Squad
5-man Tactical Squad
5-man Tactical Squad

10-man Deathwing Knights Squad

Deathwing Ancient
+ Storm Bolter and Power Fist
+ Relics of the Chapter (-1CP): Pennant of Remembrance

Apothecary

5-man Black Knights Squad

3-man Attack Bikes Squad
+ Multi Melta
+ Multi Melta
+ Multi Melta

 

 

That leaves me at still a starting 9CP, and with 1540 points out of 1750. Meaning I have 210 points left to spend.

Edited February 13, 2021 by Berzul

[Grand Master Raziel]

My 2 thoughts are your list doesn't have a lot of chaff-clearing capacity, and it's not very mobile. You could address both of those with a 5-man Ravenwing Bike Squad. That would leave you enough points to also pick up an additional lone Attack Bike which you could use for claiming/contesting objectives or scoring secondaries.

[Berzul]

My 2 thoughts are your list doesn't have a lot of chaff-clearing capacity, and it's not very mobile. You could address both of those with a 5-man Ravenwing Bike Squad. That would leave you enough points to also pick up an additional lone Attack Bike which you could use for claiming/contesting objectives or scoring secondaries.

I was thinking of rounding out the list with this:

 

Company Master

+ Jump Pack, Thunder Hammer, MC Bolter

+ Warlord: The Imperium's Sword

+ Paragon of the Chapter: Stubborn Tenacity

 

Interrogator Chaplain

+ Crozius Arcanum, Bolt Pistol

+ Cup of Retribution

+ Litanies: Exhortation of Rage

+ Hero of the Chapter: Rites of War

 

5-man Tactical Squad

5-man Tactical Squad

5-man Tactical Squad

 

10-man Deathwing Knights Squad

+ Watcher in the Dark

 

Deathwing Ancient

+ Power Fist, Storm Bolter

+ Relics of the Chapter: Pennant of Remembrance

 

Apothecary

 

5-man Ravenwing Black Knights Squad

 

3-man Attack Bikes Squad

+ Multi Melta, Multi Melta, Multi Melta

 

Ravenwing Darkshroud

 

Landspeeder Vengeance