It's not so much as comparing Heavy Intercessors to Terminators, unless you are just fielding those units as solo units. Yes, the HI get obsec where the terminators don't.
HI have the benefit that you can make a unit of 5 and that's that, great little obsec unit with some good firepower, but lacking any CC answer.
Terminators are not obsec, but give you a very tough unit that mixes shooting and CC, good in both. Compared as solo units, HI have the advantage in my book.
We though are Deathwatch. We don't run solo units of Terminators or HI when we can add them to killteams.
It then becomes apples and oranges. HI are the base to an Indomitor killteam, Terminators are the addition to a Proteus killteam. Both then should be set up to help the unit they are in and boost the role they play.
And that doesn't answer your question.
I think that terminators work best as a boost to a Proteus killteam, so just 1-2 per unit. Really depends on the unit's purpose then. A unit of heavy weapons or stalker rifle vets benefit from having a terminator with cyclone missile launcher. Mid range are good with the standard loadout, or you could even give the terminator a powersword to cheapen his cost. A more in your face unit benefits well from either twin claws or thunderhammer/SS.
I'm of the opinion that terminator squads are not the best tool we have, so personally will most likely never field one, but will most likely always have at least one terminator in a killteam.
Maybe you like 1 or 2 terminators but I would disagree that they'd be a benefit for vets using cyclones
It's way more efficient in the durability and offensive output to go all vets or split it 5 and 5 so you have a deep striking unit that costs no CP
as well as the potential for a specilism.
For 2 cyclone terminators with storm bolters and power fists is 116pts-6xt4 wounds
For 4 vets with heavy bolters its 120 pts-8x t4 wounds
Vet Sgt w/hvy hammer-35 points
bolter and Storm shield-25 points
So these 2 guys together are 4xt4 wounds. At the cost of 1 of the terminators.
Basic vets also have the same close combat ability/options as terminators. But being cheaper you can have a ton of 2+/4+ ablative models to keep your hth
1 mixed unit I've used to decent effect
Black Shield-2xclaws(7 attacks on charge)
1 van vet- shield/claw
4 vets- shields/bolters
3 terminators- plasma cannon/swords
Back the unit up with a Chief Apothecary who has 2 Co. vet guards w/shields
Over charge plasma with a medic to bring back the guys who blow up. It's a bargain bin Indomitor team. I choose not to run firstborns like this because they don't have trans human to protect the hvy investment.
Advice to make this work is to saturate your opponent with threat so these guys take Less aggro
Edited by Debauchery101, 25 February 2021 - 12:35 AM.