KAINE-77 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Hi all, I was hoping to get a little help with some questions regarding Primaris Marines, specifically Vanguard units within a Company. First off, I'm an old timer who has 're-discovered' his love of 40K, and am trying to get to grips with all the changes to the lore, and the whole Indomitus/Primaris stuff! I was always more of a painter than player, but Kill-Team has inspired me to try to make a small Vanguard force... So, my question is: What Company would Phobos equipped Vanguard units be assigned to? With the exception of it stating in the most recent Iron Hands Codex that 'the 10th company also has the responsibility for the Chapter's dedicated Vanguard operations' , most articles I can find are a little more vague, giving me the impression that as long as it's a Primaris Marine, it's more a question of mission parameters and deployment... So no mixed units, but 2nd Company Marines could deploy in a Reiver/Infiltrator role? Sorry if that's a little long winded, but I'd like to get my Schemes and markings more or less accurate. Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta galactosidase Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Yes, second through ninth companies can also use Phobos armor. It seems like a lot of extra armor. As you know, the scout company and most of the other companies are normally split up and attached to the main four companies. So usually a strike force would have less than 30 tenth company marines. If you built a whole army of them you’d need to use second company, or 3, 4, or 5th company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I don't think Reivers are interchangeable however. They sounded more like a cult in Blood of Iax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHat Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Fairly certain the 10th company is allowed 10 squads of dedicated vanguard, in addition to the regular scout squads. Don't have my books at hand right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Yes, second through ninth companies can also use Phobos armor. It seems like a lot of extra armor. I remember one of the designers at the start of 8th talking about how Primaris armour is supposed to be modular. So rather than needing a separate suit of Phobos armour, the Marine strips off some of the heavier elements and adds on stealth equipment to the basic chassis. Similarly, Gravis just involves adding extra heavy plates over the Tacticus core. This means there are not lots of empty suits sitting idle on a strike cruiser but there might be subsystems that are not currently in use. EDIT: - Knew I had seen it somewhere! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/05/mar-5-shadowspear-focus-vanguard-unitsgw-homepage-post-4/ Edited March 18, 2021 by Karhedron Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAINE-77 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Thanks to all who've replied and supplied me with more info! I's nice to get some feedback from community and not have to just rely on a wiki y'know? So much has changed with the range etc, and even the lore! I was thinking of a Kill-Team Deathwing Squad in Phobos gear (CQB/Boarding Actions/Tunnel Rats), but I'm realising I might not be able to get away with it... It'll age me, but I remember getting a box of metal Terminators and being really happy with my Dark Angels paint job, being told they were all wrong at school, then being shown that months White Dwarf and the scheme suddenly becoming Bone/Deathwing despite what the box art showed... which is kinda why I wanted to check I was getting it right! So, I've just ordered the Vanguard start collecting box, and now gonna be totally indecisive about which Chapter to paint 'em up as. Another idea I had was Deathwatch, but not all the models have separate shoulders, and it looks like some units can't be included in a Kill-Team game. Back to the drawing board! Thanks again. Edited March 18, 2021 by KAINE-77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAINE-77 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta galactosidase Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 What a cool spread. GW have done a few images of deathwing wearing bone power armor. There’s a Bolter and chainsword thread on it here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/205745-power-armor-deathwing-images/ And there’s a chapter called the angels of absolution who wear death wing colors in every company. Their vanguard should be all bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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