PhilB Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Threw together an updated version of the old Azrael castle, what do you think? I’m a little concerned with the lack of anti armour, but looks fun to play nevertheless. Any ideas for improvement? ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [102 PL, 2,000pts, 10CP] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selection**: Dark Angels Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + Stratagems + Stratagem: Relics of the Chapter [-2CP]: 2x Number of Extra Relics + HQ + Azrael [8 PL, 170pts, 2CP]: 1. Brilliant Strategist, Warlord Ezekiel [7 PL, 125pts]: 1) Mind Worm, 5) Engulfing Fear, 6) Mind Wipe Lieutenant(s) [6 PL, 105pts, -1CP] . Primaris Lieutenant: Eye of the Unseen, Rites of Initiation, Rites of War, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter . . Neo-volkite pistol, Master-crafter power sword and Storm Shield: Neo-volkite pistol + Troops + Heavy Intercessor Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Heavy bolt rifle, Heavy bolter . 4x Heavy Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Heavy Intercessor Sergeant Heavy Intercessor Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Heavy bolt rifle, Heavy bolter . 4x Heavy Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Heavy Intercessor Sergeant Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant + Elites + Bladeguard Ancient [5 PL, 85pts]: Pennant of Remembrance Bladeguard Veteran Squad [10 PL, 180pts] . 4x Bladeguard Veteran: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4x Master-crafted power sword, 4x Storm Shield . Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Neo-volkite pistol Company Veterans [8 PL, 60pts] . Company Veteran: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol . Company Veteran: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol . Company Veteran Sergeant: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol Primaris Apothecary [5 PL, 95pts, -1CP]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Vox Espiritum + Fast Attack + Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle + Heavy Support + Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 120pts]: Las Fusil . Eliminator Sergeant: Las Fusil . 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades Hellblaster Squad [16 PL, 330pts]: Assault Plasma Incinerator . 9x Hellblaster: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol ++ Total: [102 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Raziel Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 A few thoughts:If I was going to use Heavy Intercessors the way I gather you're using them, as part of the Az-Castle, I'd equip them with the Hellstorm bolt rifles. Your castle could move pretty quick, being able to advance and still shoot with all the weapons being assault weapons. Heavy Intercessors have the disadvantage of not being able to take any close combat weapon upgrades, but you've got the Bladeguard to cover that need. I will say that one squad of Bladeguard plus Azrael and Ezekial might not be enough Deathwing for the Bladeguard Ancient with the Pennant of Remembrance to be necessary. He does have the added utilities of giving your Bladeguard Vets extra attacks, plus letting guys in the castle shoot when they die, but 85 points is 85 points. Similarly, I doubt you're really going to need the Company Vets that badly. As long as you don't let your characters get caught out at the head of the pack, you should be fine.Where I'm going with this, is if you're concerned about being light on anti-armor, you could squeeze out the points to include a unit of Eradicators, or maybe plasma-Inceptors. Dropping the Company Vets and the Ancient would get you most of the way there, and maybe you could downgrade the Lieutenant (You could put one of your Company Vet models to this use) for the rest. The Bladeguard Lieutenant is a great looking model, but you're clearly not too concerned about mixing Firstborn and Primaris, and the Lieutenant's main role in the list is his aura. You're not going to miss a few attacks with a master crafted power weapon if losing them gets you the anti-tank you're concerned about not having. Overall I think the list is pretty solid. That's just how I would tweak it, were I building up models for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Thanks for your reply. Mixing the first borne with Primaris isn’t my desire, but I concede your point regarding the company vets, I have modelled a squad of them based on the Zakariah model but with assault Intercessor arms (chainswords & bolt pistols) to keep that new model theme but unfortunately ‘Primaris company vets’ aren’t a thing yet. My main reason for being them was concern with running 5 characters in a list and then clustering all of them all together in the middle; hoping the vets give some layer of initial protections from snipers etc. Thanks for the ideas concerning fitting in some Eradicators, much appreciated. Concerning the Heavy Intercessors, I’d actually not considered walking them along with the characters, blade guard & hellblasters. In my mind they would walk off to outlying objectives, thinking midfield objectives but on the flanks here. Whereby they’d likely reinforce the outriders, but if the mission called for it I guess it would make sense to blob them up. Cheers. Edit, made an attempt at implementing your suggestions. ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [99 PL, 2,000pts, 10CP] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selection**: Dark Angels Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + Stratagems + Stratagem: Relics of the Chapter [-2CP]: 2x Number of Extra Relics + HQ + Azrael [8 PL, 170pts, 2CP]: 1. Brilliant Strategist, Warlord Ezekiel [7 PL, 125pts]: 1) Mind Worm, 5) Engulfing Fear, 6) Mind Wipe Lieutenant(s) [4 PL, 75pts, -1CP] . Primaris Lieutenant: Bolt pistol, Eye of the Unseen, Master-crafted power sword, Rites of War, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter + Troops + Heavy Intercessor Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Heavy bolt rifle, Heavy bolter . 4x Heavy Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Heavy Intercessor Sergeant Heavy Intercessor Squad [7 PL, 150pts]: Heavy bolt rifle, Heavy bolter . 4x Heavy Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Heavy Intercessor Sergeant Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant + Elites + Bladeguard Ancient [5 PL, 85pts]: Pennant of Remembrance Bladeguard Veteran Squad [10 PL, 175pts] . 4x Bladeguard Veteran: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4x Master-crafted power sword, 4x Storm Shield . Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol Primaris Apothecary [5 PL, 95pts, -1CP]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Vox Espiritum + Fast Attack + Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle + Heavy Support + Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt sniper rifle . Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle . 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades Eradicator Squad [7 PL, 135pts]: Melta rifle . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt Hellblaster Squad [16 PL, 330pts]: Assault Plasma Incinerator . 9x Hellblaster: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades . Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol ++ Total: [99 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Edited March 27, 2021 by PhilB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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