Iron Warriors Iron is only as strong as the flesh that wields it - The Arkifane

[Arkaniss]

More Terminators? Excellent! I look forward to seeing the Lord :D I'm interested to see the Sorcerer too, as I plan on fielding them eventually. Just need to make sure they stay Iron Warrior-y enough while still being a Psyker :P

[TrawlingCleaner]

The first character is done for my 1k list, base is still to be done. The Warsmith is next!

 

"Khyr, Oracle of Medrenguard - able to read the skeins of Fate with unnerving ease. While most in the 4th Legion regard those that dabble with the warp as distrustful creatures, Warsmith Barzok see them as useful tools"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Arkaniss]

I like his cloak and staff you've really made them shine! :tu: You've done a great job of making him fit with the rest of the army yet still being different enough to show he's special, I hope I can do the same when I get round to my own Psykers :P

[TrawlingCleaner]

I like his cloak and staff you've really made them shine! You've done a great job of making him fit with the rest of the army yet still being different enough to show he's special, I hope I can do the same when I get round to my own Psykers

 

 

Thanks Ark! I figured he wouldn't be as dirty as his brothers as he doesn't get stuck in as often 

 

 

 

 I finished the Warsmith last night, that's my 1k Crusade roster done! As it's crusade I'll be adding a lot more to this force, starting with a Venom Crawler 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Arkaniss]

Warsmith looks epic! I love Axes on characters so that's nice to see too :D Out of curiosity how long did it take you to paint him?

 

Oh I like the Venom Crawler it's a good model! Very gribbly. Too Daemonic for my IW but I do like seeing the various Daemon vehicles they are wonderful models.

[TrawlingCleaner]

Warsmith looks epic! I love Axes on characters so that's nice to see too Out of curiosity how long did it take you to paint him?

 

Oh I like the Venom Crawler it's a good model! Very gribbly. Too Daemonic for my IW but I do like seeing the various Daemon vehicles they are wonderful models.

 

Thanks Ark! It took me maybe about 4 Hours total when not accounting for drying times, this scheme is nice and easy, the axe was the longest part!

I figure my warband see them as tools to unleash at the right time to get an advantage, it's not really something they like but put up with anyways 

 

Played my first 2 games of Crusade this weekend just gone and also the first 2 games  with my Iron Warriors. My poor boys got steamrolled both times, although my Warsmith died neither times and was an absolute kill-pig, there are upsides! Up against Primaris was really rough, 7 CSM only killed one primaris marine. Bring on the Codex!

 

As I'm in need of some heavier firepower, I decided to add a Venomcrawler and some brrrrrt Havocs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Arkaniss]

Ah, I read about your game and thought "I wonder if it was against the new Marines?" and yep, it was I've fought them before with my IW and 2W Marines are a world apart from puny 1W Chaos Marines. You wouldn't expect it to make such a difference but it really does. Still, the Venom Crawler looks grand and that goes a long way to being effective on the table   The hazard stripes are just the right amount. Only seen one in action once I think and it did decently so hopefully it'll help your next game!

 

The Havocs look amazing - are they rotary cannons or counts-as? I'm not up to date with Havoc weapons at all. Ever since they changed how the squad worked and I had a sulk about it

[Special Officer Doofy]

Your stuff is looking good TrawlingCleaner!

[TPS]

 

Thanks Ark! It took me maybe about 4 Hours total when not accounting for drying times, this scheme is nice and easy, the axe was the longest part!

I figure my warband see them as tools to unleash at the right time to get an advantage, it's not really something they like but put up with anyways 

 

Played my first 2 games of Crusade this weekend just gone and also the first 2 games  with my Iron Warriors. My poor boys got steamrolled both times, although my Warsmith died neither times and was an absolute kill-pig, there are upsides! Up against Primaris was really rough, 7 CSM only killed one primaris marine. Bring on the Codex!

Go Warsmith! I hope he finds more success obliterating those loyalists with his new creepy crawler. Good job on those evil glowy eyes!

[USNCenturion]

That’s a lot of dakka!

 

Really like seeing the progress on these guys, keep up the good work!

[MegaVolt87]

Yeah the box mags are more practical/ efficient, the drum mag looks great. Overall nice conversion. I took the easy out and did mk III with FW rotor cannons myself. 

[TrawlingCleaner]

Ah, I read about your game and thought "I wonder if it was against the new Marines?" and yep, it was I've fought them before with my IW and 2W Marines are a world apart from puny 1W Chaos Marines. You wouldn't expect it to make such a difference but it really does. Still, the Venom Crawler looks grand and that goes a long way to being effective on the table   The hazard stripes are just the right amount. Only seen one in action once I think and it did decently so hopefully it'll help your next game!

 

The Havocs look amazing - are they rotary cannons or counts-as? I'm not up to date with Havoc weapons at all. Ever since they changed how the squad worked and I had a sulk about it

 

The difference between 1 and 2 W is pretty big to be honest and it's noticeable all the way down to being shot by lasguns. A First Rank Fire! Second Rank Fire! Guardsmen squad absolutely shredded a 10 man marine squad in one of my games, it was absolutely brutal!

The Crawler was amazing in the game I used it, so much so that it levelled up from that one game! Definitely going to use it more

The Havocs weapons are Chaincannons, they're only 24" range but with 8 shots, Str5 and -1ap, they definitely shred. I definitely want to add some more at some point

 

Your stuff is looking good TrawlingCleaner!

 

Thank you Putrid!

 

 

 

Thanks Ark! It took me maybe about 4 Hours total when not accounting for drying times, this scheme is nice and easy, the axe was the longest part!

I figure my warband see them as tools to unleash at the right time to get an advantage, it's not really something they like but put up with anyways 

 

Played my first 2 games of Crusade this weekend just gone and also the first 2 games  with my Iron Warriors. My poor boys got steamrolled both times, although my Warsmith died neither times and was an absolute kill-pig, there are upsides! Up against Primaris was really rough, 7 CSM only killed one primaris marine. Bring on the Codex!

Go Warsmith! I hope he finds more success obliterating those loyalists with his new creepy crawler. Good job on those evil glowy eyes!

 

 

I had another 4 games this weekend, and he really smashed his way through everything he touched. He's turning into a bit of kill-pig!

 

That’s a lot of dakka!

 

Really like seeing the progress on these guys, keep up the good work!

 

Thank you Joker!

 

Yeah the box mags are more practical/ efficient, the drum mag looks great. Overall nice conversion. I took the easy out and did mk III with FW rotor cannons myself. 

 

I love the Rotor cannons! If they were in stock when I went to build them, I wouldn't have had to conver them!

 

 

I finished painting 2 Obliterators (apart from the bases)

 

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I mentioned to my friend that I wanted to make some trenchfighter style cultists for the IW, he offered 60 longcoat legs and 40 laslock rifles from Victoria Minatures and would only take the dozen or so BSF Traitorguard, I offered more but he refused them. I definitely owe him some beer!

 

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My Iron Warriors Crusade force got a great outing this weekend. I've played 4 games previously and lost all 4, I've now played another 4 this weekend and have now won 2 and lost another 2. 1 against Necrons (I won on points) and 1 against Imperial Fists. The loses were against Guard and Grey Knights. The Fists win really shocked me, I wasn't even rolling that well, the ChainHavocs just burnt through Intercessors and Eradicators. I've been wiped in every game except the Fists win, I even got wiped in the last turn against Necrons with a marine squad holding some Immortals off my back point.

 

The Warsmith is definitely a killpig with the Siegemaster's axe, everything he's been in combat with has died

 

Most games have either been 500 points or 750 points as we're building up to bigger games.Even with so many brutal loses, I'm loving playing this army and I'm loving crusade. I'm getting more and more attached to my guys as I go along!

[WarriorFish]

The Oblits are great models, mine don't get on the table as much as I'd like (though this is true of every model really :P ) - they are more likely to feature in IW lists I expect :lol: Work very well as trouble consultants to drop in and say hello to a juicy target (or, hopefully, goodbye?) :tu:

 

Small games can make it hard as it highlight weaknesses of an army, but you can also learn their strengths - a good way to get to grips with a codex :)

[TrawlingCleaner]

They should add some reliable anti-tank firepower to the force but at 105 points each, they struggle to make it into some of my lists As the Crusade is currently at the smaller side of the points limits, it may be a little while until I can get them on the table but I'm sure I can squeeze them in somewhere!

 

My group have said that I can make my marines to 2W each, which I appreciate, the only issue is that I have no idea what that would boost the points cost of Termie and Havocs to.

Tactical marines, Rubrics and Plaguemarines all went up 3 points when they went up a wound but with terminators and Havocs I'm not sure what their analogue would be. May have to have a think about it

[WarriorFish]

Yes that is the main problem - they offer quite a bit but the points are hard to fit in

 

For point costs the difference for loyalist costs on line Marines is a reasonable comparison, so three points is hard to argue against especially with the Cult troops getting the same. You should be able to lift the points change for loyalist Terminators in the same way? Havocs are unique unfortunately so it's harder to gauge, but since they aren't much different to normal Marines - or more importantly the enhanced toughness of Plague Marines - three points for their extra wound seems fair to me.

[TrawlingCleaner]

We've settled on:

CSM up 3pts to 17

Raptors up 3pts to 18

Havocs up 3pts to 20

Terminators staying at their cost (this is the one I'm worried about)

 

CSM and Raptors are easy, they're mirrors of Loyalists, while more expensive, more special rules, strat support etc, CSM are more flexible in weapons options.

Havoc's closest analogue is the Plaguemarine, which went up by 3pts to 21

The Terminators are a bit difficult in that they're already more expensive than loylist terminators (even after SM were bumped to 3W) likely because of their flexiblity in weapons options. DG and TS terminators are 40 each with far more damage output and staying power. While they're clearly not to the level of the other traitors, they're also not worth the same amount as loyalist  with the CSM version having better strategem support and character support.

 

We're going to test out everything bar the terminators for a few games, figure out if things are too good/cheap. If they are I'm just going to scrap it all and run them as they are in the codex. If it goes well, we'll try the terminators out and see what happens. A bit of trial and error as it were!

[WarriorFish]

I forgot about the Terminator discrepancy, I don't think there's any reason for them to be a different cost. I don't see how Chaos characters and Stratagems are so good that they warrant a specific points increase, or anyone else's for that matter. I think matching the points between them is fair, such that GW should be doing it too.

[TrawlingCleaner]

We're going to trial the marines, raptors and havocs first and then figure out where to go from there. Loyalists get so many free rules and good traits, I feel like CSM terminators will still have a rough time with 3W to be honest. I'll still play them because I'm loving this army

 

I have a game against my friend's Dark Angels tonight (last time I played them, I had possibly the worst loss I've ever had in 40k) so will report back and will hopefully have pictures!

 

Most of the way through a predator, it's bloody heavy! Still need to do the base, finish the purple coils, a transfer or two and to weather it a bit more. She's an old bird but she scrubs up well!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MegaVolt87]

Point the termi's like SW wolfguard termi's, they are very similar to ours in utility.

[Arkaniss]

That's a lovely old school Predator! :tu: I'd like to see another vehicle next once you've finished they look great in your IW scheme :D

[Wulf Vengis]

These are great. I love the iron warriors legion and These are colors inspiring.

 

Is that deimos an og mini-rhino or FW's later printing?

[TrawlingCleaner]

These are great. I love the iron warriors legion and These are colors inspiring.

 

Is that deimos an og mini-rhino or FW's later printing?

 

Thanks Wulf! They're OG, very early 40k and have stood the test of time and way older than myself  I got them from a trade from a mate of mine, they were in a bad state but have been fixed up a decent amount  

 

That's a lovely old school Predator! I'd like to see another vehicle next once you've finished they look great in your IW scheme

 

Thank you Ark! Ask and you shall receive 

 

Predator is finished and based:

 

"Hel's Deliverance was ancient even by Traitor Legion standards. First built in the Great Crusade, the Machine Spirit of the vehicle is a blood thirsty beast that drives it's occupants mad"

 

 

 

 

 

 

I got a 2nd Rhino done today, only took me 3 hours total (including dry times but not including the base, PVa takes it's sweet time)

 

 

 

 

Considerably dirtier than the first!

 

 

A 3rd has been started too!

 

 

I got 3 games in over the weekend and tested out 2W marines and their points. 2 500 pt games ( vs Tau and Dark Angels) and a 1k vs new Orks

2W really makes such a huge difference, against Dark Angels we had a great moment where our Warlords faced off. 6 Rounds of combat and neither went down before the game ended. Even with a relic Crozius that does MW vs Heretics, my Warsmith held in there.

 

 

 

The game vs Orks was hilarious for us both, the new Ork book is absolutely savage. T5 boys are horrific to clear, Warbosses are next level killy (his killed 5 of my 7 Units) and Lootas aren't good in combat  My Warsmith made 22 2+ saves without a single 1 rolled, then my terminators made 25 straight 2+ straight after, both of us were rolling with laughter

 

 

 

[Kythnos]

Loving these battle pictures! It really is time that I got my miniatures out for a game. If only my regular opponents we're not as occupied with real life obligations... :(

[TrawlingCleaner]

Thanks Kythnos! It really is great to get out and start playing games again, if you get the chance to I really recommend Crusade. The more I play, the more attached to my army I get with the levelling up system and battle honours really reinforcing that

[Kythnos]

Thanks Kythnos! It really is great to get out and start playing games again, if you get the chance to I really recommend Crusade. The more I play, the more attached to my army I get with the levelling up system and battle honours really reinforcing that

Crusade is really fun indeed. We have been using that for the online games that we have been playing these past months. But that cannot replace putting the miniatures on the table again.