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Unit of the Week: Ahriman

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++Thousand Sons Unit of the Week++

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++Ahriman++

 

New codex, new discussions about units! As we already have in other faction sections, this is the Thousand Sons Unit of the Week series, where each week we select and dissect a datasheet found in the book, and discuss how we use the unit in-game, favoured loadouts and combos, essentially how to use these units best. What have you found that works, and what doesnt? Please try to stick to the idea of making the unit in question work, as opposed to pointing out other units that might do a better job - we'll get to those in time!

 

This week, we will be discussing Ahriman, Chief Librarian of the Thousand Sons and Sorcerer Supreme!

 

What are you thoughts, and how best would you use the unit?

  • To compliment a list, or to build a list around?
  • To Disc, or not to Disc?
  • What <GREAT CULT>, loadouts, spell relic and Stratagem support do you prefer and how much does it depend on the above choices?
  • Are you buffing this unit, and if so, how?
  • Are you building as a damage dealer or buff-provider?
  • Uses in Matched, Narrative and Open Play
  • How have they fared for you in-game?

Over to you.

 

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Edited by Xenith, 07 September 2021 - 11:28 AM.

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Normally I'd try to alternate between units from different force org slots, but Thousand Sons are in a special place with maybe more HQ's than anything else, so I thought we could pick apart Ahriman this week. 

 

He's a bit of a strange fish, as while you can take him in any detachment, and they keep their <GREAT CULT> rules, he stops you from taking the great cult specific relic - so he's maybe not the best choice as a warlord.

 

That said, he has super reliable casting and an extra deny over a Rehati Exalted, in addition to 3 powers from the spell lores instead of two. 

 

Ahriman on disc = 180pts

Exalted w/Rehati on Disc = 150pts.

 

For those 30pts you get reroll all psychic powers, knowing an extra power from Change/Vengeance, an extra deny, extra wound, and flat 3 damage on the staff, but lose choice of warlord trait and access to a cult relic if he's the WARLORD. 

 

Personally, I kind of see Ahriman as the choice to get off those key powers you need to make the army work - Glamour, Weaver of Fates, Temporal Surge/Presage/Twist of Fate, as these are the big ones you're likely to try and command reroll if they go wrong. As such, I'd leave the damage dealing spells to exalted or other sorcerers.

 

Thoughts?


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Ahriman is the main man, so it's hard not to consider him (I am looking at the unopened box right now... one day soon). I think he's pretty much what it says on the tin. You have a better caster at the cost of some Warlord considerations. If you want an Exalted on disc it makes sense to make comparisons to Ahri the man.

 

There's also the background aspect, Ahriman is a major character so having him in your list is cool :P


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Seems we don't have too much to say on the Big Baddie! 

 

I seen this battle report from Glasshammer Gaming using Ahriman to good effect, with firestorm, surge, doombolt. A bit generalised, maybe, but you can use those inbuilt rerolls to fish for the 9+ on Firestorm without needing the scrolls or cult of magic warlord trait, doombolt is cast reliably for a flat 3 MW, then you can either smite or surge as needed. 


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