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Would you use a GW type version of Hero Forge?


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I think a more interesting aspect is that GW could make use of better printing methods using more expensive printers. Resin printers are great but the supports require a load of effort to take off and can chip the resin during this process (requiring the mini to be re-printed), and then the models need washing and curing on top of that, requiring a lot of staff input and time.

 

I got something commissioned by a company that has some extremely fancy MJF printers ($240,000 per printer). This process involves "an inkjet array to selectively apply fusing and detailing agents across a bed of nylon powder, which are then fused by heating elements into a solid layer. After each layer, powder is distributed on top of the bed and the process repeats until the part is complete."  The finish and detail on the part was great after their automated polishing process. 

 

This method requires minimal manual post-processing by staff members which would certainly be an advantage.

 

A few more years is needed for the technology to start to drop in price for the initial investment to make sense and for the technology to improve a little more, but if they were to invest in a heroforge-like system then that seems like a better route to go than resin in the long-term having personally used both.

 

 

The finish on the part was great after their automated polishing process. 


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I'd drop good money on something like this.

Stupid money.
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I would if the quality is there. I pre-ordered two heroes from Heroforge and was ultimately disappointed.

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I don't think that I would order anything from a GW themed hero forge. I just don't think the rules are flexible enough for it to be worth it. I haven't played a role playing game in years, but I can see where you would get the value from hero forge because it allows you to build what you want instead of looking for the closest model. 

 

I'm not paying a premium for something I can already get. Heck with what they'd charge I'd probably be better off buying two kits to make what I want.

 

I would like custom shoulder pads, for some of the less popular chapters but a full on hero forge just doesn't make sense to me.


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There's not a great deal you'd really be able to accomplish with it that you couldn't already with good old fashioned kitbashing. I'd personally rather GW made a "Make your own hero" rules supplement that would allow any faction to field their own specialized character so there was an actual reason to use said custom minis, be it a heroic Space Marine Captain with a bespoke selection of wargear, a unique Tyranid leader-beast bioform or whatever. They did something similar with AoS' Anvil of Apotheosis, and whilst AoS is a more simplified game than 40K, with a bit of work put in I can't see why it couldn't be done for the far future (aside from GW just not wanting to).


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Short answer, No. 

Long answer maybe but probably not. 
I can't see myself using this for anything other than a Space Marine character and even still if it has options they would need rules to go with them that aren't nerfed from codex to codex or faq
Outside of a Space Marine, no. I much prefer my own conversions and my own work. My warboss, for example, has been the same model for a long long time and he'd been converted and modified from edition to edition. He's glorious.  I wouldn't put that in the hands of a GW service that will cost a bunch for something I am already more than happy to do for myself. 
The price alone is not a turn off so much as I'd always rather do it myself. I've paid far too much for official Limited edition GW or FW characters that I would other wise never be able to get, it's not the cost.  
The flip side to letting GW produce a model of your own design is how do you retain the rights to that and should you. It may be a hero from one of their factions but you put the creative work in to a degree and now they are making money from that and what's stopping them from them putting that into production in the future. By which I mean maybe they offer a gallery and you design just happens to be in there and Timmy decided he has to have it.  
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I have one experience with Hero Forge. Let my daughter put a mini together on the site and it lasted about 2 days before it was snapped off at the ankles. 

 

If GW could guarantee a particular quality level, I'd at least try it once.


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I'd be for it. But I'd imagine it works be closer to the Lego variant. Where once enough people "buy in" it gets a production run
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would be nice option for those of us who cannot convert or don´t want to. To build novel characters like Khorag, for example


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I have one experience with Hero Forge. Let my daughter put a mini together on the site and it lasted about 2 days before it was snapped off at the ankles. 

 

If GW could guarantee a particular quality level, I'd at least try it once.

 

My dwarf's axe snapped off at the hand while I was painting it... so not as robust as I'd have expected from the premium price tag. 

Quesiton to the 3D printers out there, what's the robustness of the stuff you print? I'm assuming it's dependent on the material, but what's the consensus? 



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It very much depends on the material. Cheap UV resin can be fairly strong to compression and tension, but are more vulnerable to impact and torsion stress - i.e. dropping it or twisting it can break it easier than the styrene or abs plastic equivalent, while it's can be as good or better as plastic when getting squished in a bag.

 

Tougher resins intended for engineering pieces (which are a bit more expensive) on the other hand are much tougher -

Esun hard-tough has a good reputation as an engineering resin for example.

 

 

I know quite a few people mix in a small percentage of sirya tenacious to improve cheap resin at minimal extra cost without loss of detail capability; it's a rubbery flexible final plastic on its own, but a bit mixed with standard resin gives something with a bit of flex to prevent breaking on impact, and more robust minis.


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I wouldn't, no. I'm already not keen on the price of current GW character models and, despite the options it would offer, I just don't see these being any cheaper.

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