Chaptermaster Graymantle Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Well, I've decided that its about time to give my Scouts some camouflage, but I think I will be going with a multi environment camo. I've done a lot of research on camo over the last year and I guess greys and browns with some small patterns of green may be the way to go, but Im interested in hearing other peoples opinions on this: So, how do you paint your Scout Camo? (and why?) And What do you think is the best all-around camo scheme for the WH40k environment? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todmaerin Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 (silly) We had a guy up at our store last week who had to proxy a squad of scouts-- amazingly, they had the best camo pattern I'd ever seen. The proxy models? Plain troop bases. Now THAT'S camouflage! (/silly) -Tod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artimis Vergadin Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 ^^^ Completely useless? :) Anyways... To answer your question of what camo scheme is the best? Simple is what kind of bases do you do? If you do grassy/dirt bases than that should be your camo etc. As how to paint it? You could spend a lot of time and do digital style? If you wanted a headache or three ;) If not, lay down your mid color first, than do blotches of the other colors. Make sure to cover the whole area to (as in don't leave to much of the mid tone showing) Artimis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penitent Dreadnought Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Plain troop bases. The only way to make those even better is to glue a weapon barrel onto the base, then a watered-down-tissue 'tent' over it, and flock the whole thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaptermaster Graymantle Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 Well, just to make it clear; what I'm thinking of is the camo pattern on the scouts armour, uniform and equipment. - I'm not thinking of added camo in the form of branches etc. As for bases, I will be mounting my Scouts on magnetized bases and change them for the environment they are in, but to prevent having to paint 200 scouts to get all ranges of camo for different environments, I will be going with a multi-environment camo that isn't perfect for one environment, but that works ok in most environments. Ive been thinking about a scatter style digital camo like MARPAT or CADPAT, but I'm interested in seeing what other people are doing before I make up my mind 100% Thanks for all replies so far! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelos Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Check these out Commander Ys scouts have really nice camo on the face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhi_loa Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 These were my scouts, recently sold the army, but I really liked the result so I'll probably be using this technique again when I re-build my SM. http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e389/RhiLOA/SalScouts2.jpg Not the greastest picture, but the idea comes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAVARRO Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 nicely done camo capes, mind to share how did you achieved such nice texture rhi_loa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliterator Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 And What do you think is the best all-around camo scheme for the WH40k environment? That's easy, Joker's :) ! Unfortunately the pics seem MIA after the crash, but maybe if we asked him nicelly :P ... Fits especially good for cityfight, but also for barren wastelands, space hulk boarding actions, assaults on small moons/battlestations, even snow (at night :) ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinghippo Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Another technique is to paint the cloak black and shade. Then add some diagonal lines cris-crossing acrossed it. I believe it was in a WD. Forget which issue but there was a kill team mini-campaign between Inquisitor Lichtenstein (or something like that) and a bunch of IG converted from assassins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artimis Vergadin Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 multicam ftw? it's the best all around camo in the world don't take my word for it... ...see for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaptermaster Graymantle Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 Lots of good ideas here! I'm sure a lot of people want you to share the technique used to make those gilly suits rhi_loa. :lol: Actually the multicam camo, the CADPAT and the MARPAT is what I've been thinking of basing my Scouts multi environment camo on, but the question becomes how to do this in miniature for the WH40k environment. Ive been thinking of the following colours: Black base Dark Grey cover Medium grey scatter pattern "Coyote Brown" / Khaki scatter pattern Brown scatter pattern A few green spots The reason for this is that greys and browns can be found in almost all environments. The greys should take on some of the colour characteristics of what is around it, as should the "Coyote Brown". What colours do you think might work? I'm still interested in seeing more camo patterns for miniatures before I make up my mind though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordthrom3 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Where on earth is the man in the third Multicam picture? I've managed to find him on the others but that one has stumped me - I don't think he's there. Either that or he's a ninja :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moribund the Burgermeister Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Ninjas don't wear multicam, fool! They just disguide themselves as wooden stumps by switching places with a wooden stump up to 260 times per second! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undead marine Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Multicam aint that good, if your in grey / green / brown environment.. http://www.hardballheaven.dk/listImages.as...date=18-06-2006 Theres a pic or two of a guy (Robert) in the field wearing multicam. I prefer darker camo, when playing airsoft. And would apply that to any model i were to paint camo on. I would go for something like CADPAT, or the danish m84 (Love it :lol: ), especially if your tables is in the dark end of the color scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhi_loa Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 ...I'm sure a lot of people want you to share the technique used to make those gilly suits rhi_loa. :lol:... I more or less went with the tutorial for Imperial Guard snipers found here: http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/cat...ng/sniper/1.htm Some of the changes I implemented were painting the visible parts of the scouts after base coating, but before flocking and leaving some of the "netting" visible rather that cover the whole cloak (The heavy bolter scout is completely covered and I didn't like the result so the others have the patchwork applied). For texture I used a mix of GW modelling flock and Woodland Scenics Green Turf (Two batches, one light one dark). Hope someone finds this useful! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artimis Vergadin Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 If you're gonna do a ghillie, also add some twigs etc. :wink: Multicam has a ton of green in it, but it is in grey hues. See the key to multicam, is at 50ft plus it fools the eye at a glance, which for flat camos, and no need to change per environment, is revolutionary. Even a quick scan you won't see them right away. So you'd want to add grey to almost everything, makes it extremely muted yet vibrant. Grey as a neutral color is the best. So you might wanna try that. :lol: Artimis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeothar Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 That's easy, Joker's :P ! Unfortunately the pics seem MIA after the crash, but maybe if we asked him nicelly :unsure: ...Fits especially good for cityfight, but also for barren wastelands, space hulk boarding actions, assaults on small moons/battlestations, even snow (at night :wub: ). :wub: Accidentally, he used the same pattern I based mine on (sans the orange shoulderpads :P ); some USMC pattern that never made it through the test phase: http://www.xs4all.nl/~daeothar/FieryLions/Pictures/ForumPictures/FieryLionsScout2d.jpg http://www.xs4all.nl/~daeothar/FieryLions/Pictures/ForumPictures/FieryLionsScout3a.jpg http://www.xs4all.nl/~daeothar/FieryLions/Pictures/ForumPictures/FieryLionsScout4a.jpg The actual pattern can be found here: Experimental USMC Urban Camouflage It struck me as the perfect camo for troops in urban/spaceship/spacehulk enviroments, while retaining some value in other situations too. All my scouts will be having this pattern. (except perhaps the snipers, I'm seriously contemplating to paint them up the same way that Stealthsuit in (UK)WD 319 was done...;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaptermaster Graymantle Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 Interesting camo there daeothar. I don't think I will be going with that sort of camo as an all-round camo scheme, but I imagine it would be quite good for urban warriors and boarding specialist scouts. Camo is such a varied and interesting subject in relation to Scouts. - Let see more peoples camo shemes. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Desert cammo. my fave http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/ChaplainLucifer/DSC01228.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Caliban Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Here goes: My Dark Angels Scouts: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/caliban_knight/DSCF0074.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/caliban_knight/DSCF0078.jpg Yea there is a bit of stray livery green on the back of one :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaptermaster Graymantle Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 That's a pretty cool camo. How did you get the lines so sharp? And is that flocking on one of the Scouts capes? :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Caliban Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I used a Kolinsky Sable detail to outline the como pattern with a controlable yet thin coat of paint. I then repeated carefully untill the colour was flat. The key is patience here I think and to go for several thin layers. See the Tau painting guide in WD this is fairly similar and useful. Make sure your colour scheme is contrasting on a whole and that the camo is simple only containing three harmonising colours at max. These colours should be a considerable difference in tone to achieve an effective finish from a distance. As I mentioned there is a little Livery green paint on the cloak of one of the scouts which needs to be covered. Note that the highlights on the rifles are a little too extreme and probably will be toned down with black ink. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoot Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I used flecktarn on my old DA scouts, as its a nice all-round colour scheme. http://www.pbase.com/sapphon/image/53583737 http://www.pbase.com/sapphon/image/53583738 Can be time consuming, but its not as bad as I thought it'd be to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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