Nine_Breaker

Updated the outline a bit. I'm starting work on the previous section posted and the Forge of War section. The Forge of War Kharth Primus (Hive World) Rebellion Kharth Tertius (Penal Colony; moon of Kharth) and the descent on Kharth Primus Purge of Hive Dominus. 9 weeks of incessant close-quarters fighting/slaughter Commander Brahka claims Kharth Tertius as homeworld Homeworld Homeworld is the penal colony moon of Kharth Tertius Scyllian Rift, Segmentum Pacificus Billions of prisoners who spend a lifetime in work camps and mines Many are born in prison colonies Life devoid of happiness or luxury. Crime, gangs, vice, toil Fortress Monastery humbly named the House of Angels Recruitment (mass recruiting drives on Kharth Tertius; Angels round up thousands of young males and take them to the House of Angels) The Shielding Final test to become Astartes Librarians erect psychic barriers in the minds of recruits. Like nailing plates of armor onto the mind Most recruits come out of ordeal little more than vegetables. Made into servitors. Only those with a mind of steel will pass and receive the geneseed Shielding provides another line of defense against psychic assault “Vessius's Shield” (named after the Chief Librarian who first started the Shielding) is maintained by members of Librarium throughout an Astartes's lifetime Angels of Perdition who survive particularly long often show signs of memory loss. Rapid degradation of mental faculties in dreadnoughts Combat Doctrine Relentless even for Astartes. Push their enhanced physiology to its limits in decisive bursts of violence. Completely implacable. Will not sleep or rest until the battle is won Ends justify the means; unshaken by collateral damage; Exterminatus Obedience to Chapter officers Strong use of librarians. Chapter fields exceptionally strong psykers. Crush the minds of enemies and create nightmare illusions Flood enemy comms with prophesies of death. Librarians attack moral of enemy before Angels of Perdition hammer them aside. Shock and awe! Organization Codex compliant (Treatises of Danaar); one of, if not the only, text Angels of Perdition are allowed to read and study Librarians held in high regard; known for mental resilience and ability to crush weaker minds; Exemplars of the chapter Rumored that no librarian of the Angels of Perdition has ever been consumed by the Empyrean 5 suits of Terminator armor; heavy use of Sternguard Veterans in 1st Company Chaplains enforce strict discipline within the Chapter. Not completely unknown for a Chaplain to summarily execute a Marine who is found wanting or disobeys orders Chapter Cult and Beliefs Prize mental endurance and strength over all things Will of the Emperor is everything Emperor was the pinnacle of Mankind. Guilliman his greatest and most trusted servant Astartes are the sword and shield of Mankind Obedience to orders is paramount. To stray is to invite heresy. Officers embody the Will of the Emperor Angels of Perdition are forbidden to read, write, pursue arts outside of military reports and the Codex Astartes. All free time is spent training, prayer, or psycho-indoctrination. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. Chapter believes that Astartes do not have the luxury of letting petty emotions, sentiment, or fears cloud the mind. Believe in cold logic and efficiency. The mind must remain pure of all weakness or doubts. Abhors the rogue psyker and witch. Sees their weak minds as greatest threat to Imperium. Often conducts witch hunts and pogroms throughout Scyllian Rift. Arrival of the Angels of Perdition is met with dread. The Chapter's cult would revere the Emperor - he has the strongest mind. He powers the astronomicon, after all. He fights Chaos Gods in planes of existence unimaginable to he rest of the Imperium Chapter Motto “His Will, our hands.”

I've had 2 posts deleted from trying to do all the coding and such so I'll keep this one simple. @Molotov * Thanks for the pic! That's probably the last surviving visual of the Angels. * I see what you're saying about the 14th Founding. I'll definitely tone down how many liberties I've taken. * Didn't really mean to make it sound like the Angels of Perdition focused on fighting heretics and traitors but see now why it came across that way. Adding that to the list of edits. * I see what you mean about the moon being called Perdition and that'll be changed. Now I'm not too sure about the penal moon as a homeworld at all. I'll have to think on how much it adds to the chapter, if anything. * The Dorn thing was from an old edit. The outline is an older document than the actual article text. I'm going to go back through and update some things though. I'd rephrase it if I had actually said that, Mol. My idea is that the Chaplains have the authority to do this but there are maybe only a couple cases of this extreme measure being taken. After all, even one Astartes holds colossal value. @Ferrus Manus 1) After thinking about it more I'm inclined to agree with you and Molotov. If I keep the penal moon at all it will certainly get a name change. 2) Tyranids is a very extreme comparison. In my mind, all Angels undergo extensive hypno-therepy throughout their lives. Instead of reading and studying texts on war, they are force fed the information. When a line marine picks up rank, he will rely on his training, experience, the codex, and all the knowledge downloaded into his brain to make tactical/strategic decisions to fill in the gaps of his orders. My point is that the Angels don't need orders to do everything, but all orders they do receive must be followed instantly. If a marine thinks something can be done better, well he can bring it up afterwards or when he picks up rank. He might not like the order to fire on a crowd of Imperial citizen, but its is not his place to question that order, it is his place only to act.

Well nothing as solid as "Vikings/Crusaders/Vampires/etc in Space", no. The entire idea behind the Angels of Perdition is what comes to mind when you think Purity of Mind. This is the chapter that smothers individuality and personal initiative, censors information, burns books, kills witches, and will carry out any lawful order without silly things like morals getting in the way. At least that's what I've been going for.

So it's 2015 now, probably about 4 years since I used to frequent the Liber, and I finally got the inspiration to return. Unfortunately all records of my trademark DIY, the Angels of Perdition, have been lost to the warp. Rather than cry about it though, I see this as a chance to start anew and come up with an even better product. I'm very rusty, but I believe I have all the inspiration and drive I need to accomplish my goal and return the Angels to the mighty ranks of the Liber Astartes. I'll be progressing gradually. I have an outline which I will post and replace with the fleshed out sections as I go. As always, all comments, feedback, and critiques are welcomed and encouraged. Hope you enjoy! Angels of Perdition “We are the slayers of kings, the destroyers of worlds, bringers of ruination and death in all its forms.” http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Vocates/angelsofperditionpy6.jpg The Golden Founding In the final days of the forty-first millennium, grim are all tidings. The armies of Man fall, the light of the Astronomicon has grown weak, and the well of Hope that the galaxy draws upon in dark times has all but dried. However, the Imperium of Man has occasionally been spared of its despair and known times of triumph. Ancient Imperial records show that the 14th Founding of the Adeptus Asartes was one such time of hope. It was to be a Golden Founding, and the High Lords spared no resource in raising the new champions of Humanity and arming them with the most mighty arms and armor with which to bring death to the foes of the Emperor. Even the careful selection of gene-seed during the Founding was meticulous almost to a fault, as the Adeptus Mechanicus insured that the vast majority of the fledgling Astartes Chapters were created from only the purest genetic stock of Roboute Guilliman and Rogal Dorn. Rumors abound as to why so much care was afforded to the 14th Founding in particular. The real reason has long been lost to time and the abyss of bureaucracy, but many Imperial Scholars and experts on the subject believe the momentous effort put into the 14th Founding in fact stem from the previous Astartes Founding: the 13th “Dark” Founding. That being said this is only conjecture, as all records regarding the subject have been replaced en masse by speculation, hypothesis, and superstition. Chapter 639, who would later be known and feared as the Angels of Perdition, were given life during the 14th Founding. They are scions of the Ultramarines through way of the Nemesis whom also also provided the nascent chapter with its initial training cadre. The honor of leading the chapter as its first chapter master was given to Lither Brahka, Veteran Captain of the Nemesis 3rd Company. Though described as an extremely humorless and dour individual, Brahka's service record was extensive as it was unquestionable. He was a commander known among the Nemesis as having an absolute intolerance for any breach in disciple, and that when it came to carrying out the Emperor's Will the ends always justified the means. Given command of 1,000 of the Emperor's Chosen and their mighty fleet, Chapter Master Brahka struck out into the Segmentum Pacificus without celebration. Bringing ruin to the mutant, xenos, and traitor at the alter of war would be their founding ceremony. For 14 years, Chapter 639 battled the enemies of Man without pause, exterminating heretical cult after traitor warband in the name of the Emperor. [add color battles and accolades here] EDIT:: Updated the outline. See below

As I live and breathe! Good seeing you in here Toyship. Almost feels like the old days. I know your pain as far as the Execrators go. Other than a couple references here and there, the only semi-solid stuff I found on the Angels of Perdition was the old Vocates thread. But it's enough to get them going again (I'll have something within 24 hours). Anyhow, this thread is for the Castigators. Mol, I'm pulling the below passage from your section on the Great Halls. I'm not sure about the part in bold where you single out daemons. Maybe it'd be better to say something along the lines of "trials and triumphs against the heretic, the mutant, and the malefic..."? The way it is now it feels like you are trying to encroach on the Grey Knights or Exorcists. Other than that I also was also wondering about the serfs. I see that you haven't really fleshed out that section and would have probably covered this anyways, but how do the Castigators get their serfs? Do they recruit serfs? Otherwise how did they get enough females on board for many to be born into the position? I'm sure more will follow later.

I am reborn! Now just going through the process of getting EternalPsi deleted. Anyways, I'd be willing to revisit the Vocates. Perhaps with less chapters this time though. Maybe we can even get it done! I know the Vocates and Harvesters threads are still around.

Bingo! I wish I could delete all the old accounts and this one and return to my rightful place as the Breaker of Nines. But until my revival I shall remain as the Eternal Psi. And I saw the Tabula Astartes thread. Unfortunately a LOT of those links are dead now. Perhaps a bit of a cleanup is due? I'll leave that to the brass though. Either way, thanks to Molotov, I hope to get the AoP back in the Liber soon.

Mol, I was horrified to see how many awesome IA's have been lost. Even SCC's Brazen Claw article! Almost like we survived the Dark Founding ourselves haha. I completely agree with you about the emphasis on the chapter founder being over the top. If anything most of the details can probably be saved for sidebars and the like. As far as the document you sent, I enjoyed it very much. In fact it did inspire the current IA outline I have sitting in a word document. The Angels of Perdition will rise again! I see what you mean. Very factual about the Castigators but somehow lacks the feel of the chapter. That is to say dripping with grim-dark, intolerance, and zeal. It strikes me that perhaps for those who have written so many articles, they put much more flavor into the sidebars and extra sections than the standard sections. They are more fun after all! I certainly struggle with this myself. Perhaps something to think about as you make your revisions. Maybe try to make a separate list of the key elements of the Castigators and try to inject some of that into every section. And I'll go ahead and get that list of suggestions, opinions, and questions together for you.

As promised, Mol, I read over that behemoth word file a couple more times and have a little for you. However because of how you're doing all this I'll only comment on what you have in the thread so far. If you want more, post more! As far as The Founding goes, all seems pretty much in order. However, I believe you should keep that one sentence about the "lesser" and "debased" geneseeds being used during the 14th as well. The connotations with the words you used reinforce the intolerant feel of the article and Castigators themselves I think. The First Castigator ​This section also does what it set out for. However I can't help but ask myself a couple things after reading it. Why was he chosen to lead the Castigators? Was it bestowed upon him as a great honor? Was it a political move to get rid of him? Maybe it doesn't matter but I can never help but wonder how a chapter decides which of their most renown Astartes officers will be leaving. Why the name change from Baraquiel (spl?)? Can't wait to see more!

Citation needed, especially the black carapace part. The 3rd 'dex mentions survival rate of neophytes at 54%. :D ... If I must. Pg.45, right column of the page is the testimonies of several Silver Skulls responsible for bringing in new blood. Silver Skulls recruit from Garanda II and mentions that around 35% is the usual induction rate of all 'subjects' tested. The testimonies there go on to say that 11 of 38 of the potentials are taken for further screening. 7 of those become serfs due to tissue rejection or not having the required mental fortitude and 4 are allowed to begin training as Neophytes. Of these 4, one dies because of rejection/mutation of the biscopea implant the promotes muscle growth. The last three Neophytes survive the 10th Company and graduate as indicated by the testimony of a Chaplain Deiad. 3 of 38 original is about 8%. I don't see the 54% that you mentioned, but that may just be because I'm not looking that hard or perhaps I just read that entire page wrong.

According to 3rd ed. SM 'dex, it's safe to assume that about 8% of all raw recruits (normal boys at this point) will go on to graduate from the 10th company and receive the vetted black carapace. That's assuming your chapter recruits from a particularly hardy and healthy people as most Astartes do. So if the chapter stops fighting for awhile and goes on a strong recruiting drive, say gathering about 1200 viable recruits in a year, then they could have a full company's worth of Astartes in full power armor in the next decade with more ready to graduate from the 10th. Seeing as how any male child on the Lion's homeworld can compete to join the chapter, it is perfectly reasonable that the Lions could gather more than 1200 a year. So you see your chapter could be back to full strength in seven decades or less. And even if the chapter conducts some minor routine missions (hunting pirates, putting down rebellions, purging small xenos infestations, etc) and stays out of big trouble, it shouldn't take much more than a century or so for a chapter to get back to full strength.

I got my numbers from years old memory. So I guess the '1' shouldn't have been there... But whatever, my point stands. 2000 years is way too long to rebuild a chapter.

According to GW it takes 155 years to raise a chapter of 1000 Astartes from scratch... 2000 years is ridiculous.

Alrighty, since I just lost a good potion of my post I’ll skip all the formalities. I like this chapter and think it has potential to be a really good one with some tightening up. I read both the 1st and 2nd posts to put things in perspective, but I’ll be limiting my comments to the WIP IA in the 1st post. Let’s get to work! Origins: I definitely think that “psychological warfare” would be better suited here. It might just be me but the word ‘terrorist’ to me makes brings up images of the marines, well, terrorizing innocents with brutality instead of using meticulous planning to turn the enemy combatants’ fear against them. Homeworld: I understand that the bolded part probably means these things might have originated from the warp. However “heretical powers” doesn’t always refer to Chaos. It might mean that Xenos were involved, or anything else that doesn’t really fit with the Imperial Creed (Pagan rogue trader brought it in? Heretical!). Perhaps ‘Malefic’, ‘Warp-spawned’, ‘daemonic’, or something along that line of thought would be better for what you want to get across? Using “them” in this sentence is a little ambiguous. My first read through I had to double back because I thought you were saying the dreads lay beside the catacombs. Of course it was easy to figure out what you meant, but you don’t want anybody to have to do that right? Perhaps change “them” to “their deceased/fallen comrades” or something like that? This part seems very far-fetched to me. It might be possible, but right now I’m thinking to myself “I live in North Carolina. Would I be able to see anything in California even if it was flipping ginormous?” That’s about 2,500 miles away and my mind immediately tells me, “not a chance between heaven and hell.” Perhaps the scale of this place this fortress monastery should be scaled down to make it easier to swallow? Organization: I’m sensing some inconsistency here. At first I thought that each battle company has its own recruits and scouts. But then it seems that all the new guys train on-world with the Minuo. This definitely needs some clarification. It might help to make the distinction between recruits, initiates, and neophytes (you use all three of these words at one point or another). This doesn’t sit right with me. I understand spending 100 years away from battle would suck, but I still feel like an Astartes would consider this a huge honor! They are being entrusted with the very future of the chapter as much as any apothecaries. Not to mention that this council of chaplains and librarians is basically voting this veteran better suited to train the recruits than any of his peers. Not saying you need to change this part, but I feel like the magnitude of the task this Lord Minuo has been entrusted with isn’t really considered. Why don’t they just change the color? The Death Heads already deviate pretty far from the Codex Astartes, why not paint their librarians in any other color if blue is such bad luck? Everybody knows that an unlucky psyker is about 100x worse than an unlucky…anything else. Why? Combat Doctrine: I think saying “sabotage” would be better than “demolition” in this case. Blowing stuff up isn’t always the best way of doing things. In the same vein, “sabotage missions” doesn’t really equal “assassination”. Perhaps words like “psychological warfare”, “disruption”, “confusion”, and the like should be considered? The Ultramarines aren’t known for fighting with any abnormal ‘fervor’. They are known for execution, tactical flexibility, and codex adherence. I don’t particularly like this part. Perhaps it should say “for the enemy”? I’m not sure as far as wording goes. But Astartes know no fear. This reads like: for the Death Heads, an invisible enemy is the most terrifying? I believe you mean to say that the Death Heads understand that for the enemy an invisible enemy is the most terrifying. Chapter Cult: Heresy! Adopting practices from the Emperor’s foes? Wouldn’t it sound a bit better if they adopted these practices from the warrior houses of Klysian? Also, what is this “same purpose”? I don’t understand if the trinkets are to inspire fear, for good luck, both, or something else entirely… This was kind of abrupt. There was no mention of any kind of duel or why they would even have duels until you just jump right into the deep end of it all. I’d personally keep that bolded part off. A company is around for thousands of years and probably has huge halls dedicated to all sorts of relics and trophies. This part is hard to swallow. Also…where on earth would they keep all this stuff? You have 100 veterans plus vet. sergeants, captains, chaplains, librarians, chapter master, etc. If half of them had the amount of crap you describe then the whole chapter would be tripping over xenos skulls every time they got up at night to use the bathroom (metaphorically). Well that's about all I got time for now and anythign I can say about the IA itself. Next time I'll hopefully get to discuss the thematic side of the Deaths Heads.

Well the Fang isn't really a fang. The Rock isn't really a rock. The Phalanx is no where near to being the military formation of the same name. It isn't about what the fortress monastery looks like, it's what it represents.