Blindhamster

I dunno if it’s real or not, but the inability to tell if something is legit or not is hardly new. I will never forget the first primaris leak and sooooo many people were convinced it was a conversion lol

Thought it would be a fun little experiment to see what my fellow frater think of all the “new” stuff. idea is, list the models in order of how much you like them, and give a brief reasoning. for me: 1) mephiston - very faithful to the classic model and original concept art, has a huge amount of presence. 2) Dante - my joint favourite character alongside tycho, a really solid rendition, I like the everything about the model, the new pistol design is excellent, they didn’t go too crazy with it either though. 3) new captain - a really lovely kit, my only issue really is that he’s a little short, rules aren’t what I’d have liked, but model is excellent and a solid successor to Tycho. 4) sanguinor - I really like the model, especially now I’ve started painting it. I think the old wing design was a little better, but otherwise I really like his update. The face is interesting, I bought an alternative but am painting up both to make final decision. 5) sanguinary priest - I love it, the head options are characterful, he’s less ostentatious than the old one, but not in a bad way seeing as they don’t get slicer armour. 6) lemartes - I really like him, the pose is good because the aggression suits him, it’s a good update, I do think it’s interesting that of just about all characters, his redesigns have been vastly different every time. 7) astorath - I like him a lot, though I wanted a different pose. The wings are silly. How would he walk around anywhere. 8) sanguinary guard - I don’t think they’re awful, I actually like the new jump packs, but there’s lots of little issues, the lack of variety in details being the worst, I hate the tubes. 9) upgrade sprue - I still don’t think it’s terrible, it feels pretty in keeps my with the dark angel one to me, but actually the faces are much worse quality than I originally thought, I like the swords, terminator bits are handy. Had it been a case that we could take the stuff on it on any of our units, I’d think it was more useful.

Personally don’t want to go back to the old torso/leg approach, I prefer the more logical abdomen’s. But there is a middle ground for sure like terminators have where the abdomen is part of the pelvis

tbf, current intercessors could easily have had an upgrade along those lines. the shins are distinct, the torso fronts are distinct. Just a case no 3d designer has done it. I dunno, if you had one base set of 5 poses for all those unit types, it would suck. Even 10 distinct poses wouldn't be good. Currently we have 5 intercessor poses, 5 hellblaster poses, 5 assault intercessor poses, 5 desolation poses - so literally double the variations for poses.

You say that, I still look at its rules and themes and disagree, it’s still very clearly the battle company detachment. but also, you’re welcome to your opinion, honestly I’d prefer to get back to the main topic now lol

would just be nice to get our chapter banner model back! Now that official lore is that the Sanguinary Ancient is who carries it, and the one in the squad isnt that its a "sanguinary banner"

or C. The rules for each army should actively encourage lists that fit their respective lore (hence my suggestion that detachments should be the place to "enforce" a level of army composition rules). again to use the obvious one. Gladius is literally the example of a battle company. it should require at least a portion of battle company units be present (primarily battleline, but also some "standard" close and fire support") Similarly 1st company taskforce should be almost exclusively veteran based units etc. Now, detachment rules can encourage this (1st company does a decent job there, as do a lot of the tyranid ones, gladius does not), but you can use it to help balance the detachments further with a level of requirement.

A very nice looking kit indeed! Happy to have easier access to that helm for various reasons

@Subtleknife explain the disagree? blood angels sanguinary guard got made worse for options, and details/variety death company got utterly demolished model wise (going from a full kit to barely an upgrade kit) and significantly reduced in options rule wise we lost our librarian dread we lost our furioso dread we lost corbulo we lost tycho we lost the sanguinary ancient we lost the death company chaplain (rule wise, the model still exists.. for now) we lost our unique terminator models we lost our unique terminator captain we lost our unique tactical models (admittedly this wasn't this edition) we lost our chapter banner We did gain a distinct captain model, which sort of makes up for losing tycho. but hillariously, despite it having artificer armour -we cant get that from any of our detachments (except the one where it has to be a jump pack model lol)

looking great!

BA didn’t do exceptionally well. Of all chapters we absolutely have lost the most both model and rule wise

but yeah, that 11th edition starter set, painted like blood angels huh? It'll be nice for the nostalgia as someone that did own the 2e box. i very much doubt they'd go for just mirroring the contents of that, but who knows! maybe it'll be 20 space marines vs 20 boyz and 40k gretchin lol

Do we think we would see another animated video? also, I also had thought perhaps it’s actually blood ravens, considering the recent heroes rebox and DoW4. Depends on if Valraks whisperer knows the lore/game or not I guess. The two are distinct if you do, but could be mixed up otherwise

So that 11th Ed launch box.. if true im sure it’ll be interesting to see a cinematic at least with the sons of sanguinius. As others have said, I’ve no doubt all the models will be generic but there’s still scope for them to be very cool. and if blood angels are poster boys for an edition, I’d like to think GW might make up for the failings of the update this edition. starter set is assumed to be a speeder, vanguard, new captain, perhaps tacticals in some form? All sounds good. for a bit of wishlisting for 11th Ed blood angels, I’d like to see: - sanguinary ancient (blood angels chapter banner is conspicuously gone now with the loss of BA assault terminator kit and classic sanguinary guard) - a blood angels infantry kit, could be a dual kit for death company and intercessors, I don’t mind. But I’d like to not need to do quite so much green stuff work lol. - return of corbulo, his absence sucks, perhaps rethink his gear a bit to make him more interesting/distinct from the on foot priest - return of Seth, I don’t play flesh testers so I’d HATE for the “blood angels” update to be a character “blood angels” can’t use. But I do hope he returns. - true wishlisting: erelim, a chance to make up for the failings of the sanguinary guard with astoraths equivalent

its the same for victrix - works the same as company heroes too, or if you mean they get it vs everything where SG is melee only, yeah, thats in my summary above. But again, company heroes get it vs both too. SG get -1 to both hit and wound but only for melee.