Blindhamster

yeah nobody expects anything other than generic models. However, if the BA are the ones on the main box, there's a fair chance they'll get their supplement early and it has people pondering what the actual update for them might look like. I'd love to say that being the poster boys would necessitate a decent update, but thats not typically the case.

For what its worth, even back as far as 2nd edition, whilst its true companies typically had 10 squads (sometimes they don't because of casualties, albeit thats where reserve companies come in, assuming you can get back to them), it was noted that unusually the companies always had full 2 x 10 man assault squads, because its where blood angels wanted to be. It's also the reason they had veteran assault squads - because blood angels were more likely to have spent more time in assault squads than other chapters. IMO you're correct that it went too far in characterisation at one point, but part of the logic behind assault squad troops, was to represent that above fact: that blood angels pretty much always have assault squads in play, they're codex compliant (as much as the flaw allow), but doesn't mean their quirks don't find a way to present themselves. As far as companies are concerned post primaris, they technically didn't change dramatically, in that the split of battleline vs close support & fire support is roughly what it always was, but the kinds of units that fall into those have changed and mkX is ostensibly easier to adjust for "the mission" so probably results in more wiggle room (it's also up to 20 squads in a company, but thats to account of the smaller unit sizes of certain squads and temporary reserve company standins)

To be fair, pre 5th we did have veteran assault squads and jump pack honour guard when nobody else did, and our death company were allowed jump packs in 2nd and 3rd ed at least (4th edition admittedly they didn't... 4th edition was also the first indication that someone at GW doesn't like Blood Angels lol), so DemonGSides isn't wrong when he says jump packs have been part of our identify for a long time/forever. But its also true that it isn't all we are and stuff that goes against jump packs isn't inherently bad.

Technically not true. The blood angels old honour guard kit came with one.

The pose in the BA captain kit wasnt designed for a jump pack, i know you can put one on and it'll look fine, but GW clearly has a design preference for jump captains to look like they belong alongside the jump intercessors (and probably vanguard) now. What you're actually asking for is two captain kits... honestly I'd have loved that personally! But it was never going to happen. I also converted my own, not much choice right. I didn't use sanguinary guard (because to do so would mean having two random SG bodies leftover. Blood Angels captain being its own datasheet is the problem. We should have "just" gained the option for inferno pistols on our captains (jump and on foot in tacticus) as a rules addendum rather than the dumb datasheet. Especially as our upgrade sprue means there's a "model" for it. I 100% agree that the Priest jump pack option shouldn't have gone to legends, but then again there's a whole host of things that shouldn't have gone to legends. Maybe we'll see a jump priest model in the future?

I dont see librarian dreads being a thing, or if they are, they will be a core choice, not a blood angel one. Seth is almost a given I think, Corbulo I'd like to see. In actual fact in 11th I think "the big 4" will get single model releases, and "blood angels" will be Seth. I.e. Nothing blood angel even if the rumour of us being on the box ends up being true. But I'd like to see some proper kits to make up for the fumbled release we got (Again, I think our character releases were good/great, but our units were effectively non-existent compared to all the others)

yeah that does look fun and allows for a very small army in terms of models which is nice for modelling opportunities

I for one didn’t mind the priest and captain not having jump packs on the model. The models were clearly successors to corbulo and tycho, neither had packs. They’ve always been a codex chapter with minor deviations. I personally never liked the over reliance on assault marines that was a thing for a while (but wasn’t originally). Fellow 2e starter here. I honestly love all our character models, albeit I’d have preferred a different style to the wings on the sanguinor and maybe a different head. the sanguinary guard aren’t as bad to me as some, though I’d have liked more variety in helmets/details and I actively dislike the lack of obliques on the armour. Totally get the fact many wished for wings, and even bought some myself lol (though in magnetising them as I’m still unsure if I want to use them) the upgrade sprue was fine for me, I like bare heads, I’d have preferred a few less wild looking ones. I like the swords, but I prefer more traditional sword shapes to sabers and our art almost always had the traditional sword shape.. I think more of our units should have gained access to the gear on it as right now it’s mostly a waste i would have really liked a blood angel intercessors kit though and still hope we see one to replace the old tactical kit. And I think we should have still had a death company full kit with wildly aggressive poses aaaanyway. Im with @chaptermastergodfry in that the idea of a launch video etc is exciting. Im sure the core models will be totally generic, but I do hope we get something decent update wise to make up for the poor offering for units in our update.

Do you have data to support “the majority would rather have full armour”?

well, this is a definite purchase for me, a set of just helmets would be ignored - except maybe if they were all specifically blood angel themed.

The HH heads are smaller, not insanely so, but still noticeably so

I like having bare heads, usually 3-4 in a squad of 10, 1-2 in squads of 3-5

I have a theory - it we were indeed the poster boys, I’d also think we might see: - corbulo + “blood angel intercessors” or similar next edition. With the bits from the upgrade being compatible for them and giving us the build options for death company intercessors or just blinged up intercessors. It would be a neat parallel to the old blood angel tactical or even older blood angel space marine models. And if we see an actual new standard intercessor kit it could make even more sense

I started the hobby for tail end of 2nd edition, 3rd was the first one I really played, so I feel you there lol

I don’t think I have any to hand, but the tortuga sanguinary guard and these packs are scaled to primaris so it’s probably a bit larger