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As I said in my previous post So I would wait until we've decided the details surrounding the Oubliette's origin/nature and the Chapter's relationship with the Inquisition. But if I had to choose now, I'd choose option 1

This might go against some of the ideas established so far, but what makes the most sense in my mind is that the Chapter has a certain level of physical separation from the prison, both for security reasons and for plausible deniability. Maybe the in-universe semi-official story for those who are in a position to do basic investigation into the situation, is that the Chapter at some point swore an oath to the Inquisition/Relevant Inquisitors/The Prison Administration, to provide some level of protection and oversight of the prison and sometimes assisting in bringing in prisoners (Chapter could even form specialized "Kill"-Teams from time to time for this purpose). The Chapter would therefore have a permanent presence at the prison, but most of the Chapter specific facilities would be off-site, or even off-world. If so, then another idea presents itself; a contingency plan. Perhaps the entire prison is rigged with explosives. Should the worst happen, they could trigger an explosion, and the Chapter could just leave on their fleet. Alternatively, the official story is that there is no prison. Nope, no prison, just a Chapter homeworld, nothing to the see here. If so, than the prison would have to be either made by the Chapter/Inquisition, or the original facility is unknown to the rest of the Imperium for some reason. I think the prison could be quite the ancient facility. Its true origin might be unknown, but I can see it serving as an actual prison for a long time, and then covertly taken over and repurposed by the Inquisition at some point for their experiments. Thinking about this brings up another thought. If the demon host containments have an effect on Chaos powers, the prison would be an extremely high value target for the Chaos Gods, right? What prevents them from sending everything they have at the Oubliette? Is the Oubliette somehow difficult for the Chaos to locate? How? Maybe the Oubliette is a fleet based prison complex, so it can flee? Through the Warp!?!?! Would that even work ? Anyways, I think the prison should be for all manner of inmates, who are screened for their potential as demon hosts, IF its a known prison. If not, than the Chapter should focus on creating demon hosts, nothing else, IMHO.

Going off @Gamiel's thoughts, here are some suggestions for color scheme and markings. A nice muted Wine/Burgundy, with steel/iron and black details along with chains, padlocks, keys, cell bars and port cullis/gate iconography. As for the symbol, I'm all for boiling it down to the essentials. Here is my suggestion for an alternative. I guess we can still play around with alternatives for the bow of the keys, but I feel the keys with the split Inquisition symbol is strong enough to stand on their own.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they are an extension of the exorcist project or even direct successors of the Exorcists Chapter. But I also think there might be enough juice here for them to work on their own. Maybe a small hint at how the success of the Exorcists inspired the creation/modification of a new Chapter to fulfil a similar purpose? A note on the symbol: I like the Inquisition Cuts and Biting. It's a neat, fun and not-so-subtle nod at the Inquisition. However, the explicit use of the Inquisition symbol on the skull is too much. Not even the Exorcists have this and I feel that in-universe there should be some effort to hide their affiliation, even if it's obvious to us.

Gaol Wardens

Welcome back! Have you worked out some details on the Charnel Hounds as a Chapter or are you looking to develop the Chapter Master first then the Chapter around his personality and traits? If yes to the latter above, what are the traits of the CM you want to portray? Why is it important that he was present at the both Siege and the Cage? As far as getting lost in the warp and popping up again, there is some precedence for this in the lore (can't remember anything at the top of my head), and it usually happens when its convenient for the writer/story. From what you have described so far, there is nothing about your lore that dictates when it should be. So if this is something you really want for you fluff, just pick a time (like after the Great Rift), go for it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. However, I do feel it is somewhat of a overused trope, both in official and unofficial fluff, so I do wonder why this connection between the past and the present is important to the Chapter Master, the Chapter's identity, or to you? If it's just because you think it's neat, then I totally get it And if you want to make it as convincing as possible, then you will have to convince the reader how/why the Chapter was established? Who sanctioned it?

As I mentioned in the original topic, I think some of these Chapters are not just ideas, but "owned" by the poster, and I think it would be weird/disrespectful to develop them as a community Chapter, unless the poster is okay with it.. The Bloody Palms are one of these. I may be wrong/misinterpreting the posters, but if I'm right I thought it was worth mentioning again. Anyways, my vote has been cast

I really like what you are going for here. Space Marines on mounts are bit too much for my tastes, but I can appreciate it. The name is a very on the nose and an oddly specific reference in the context of the 40k universe, but GW has done this themselves on occasions so I guess there is precedence. Nice touch making them successors of the Angels Excelsis. I can only assume that the overly verbose and flowery language is an intentional choice to convey the pompous and extravagant nature of the Chapter itself. The execution is really well done. However, I am of two minds when it comes to the effect. On one hand, it ties nicely into the character of the Chapter, and it's honestly impressive how you keep up with the style (I guess a thesaurus comes in handy ). It also let's the reader read between the lines and figure out what is true and what is exaggeration. On the other hand, because the style is overly flowery and wordy, the article becomes overly flowery and wordy, which is not always fun or easy to read. Also, it feels like it sometimes switches from two perspectives. One perspective that knowingly describes the opulence, arrogance and majesty of the Chapter and homeworld nobility, the other which unknowingly describes the Chapter and their homeworld in an opulent, arrogant and majestic way. The latter feels more like an in universe Matadors fan-boy while the former feels more like a neutral observer. Maybe committing to one "voice" could be beneficial? Or clearly separate the propaganda from the neutral descriptions, using more quotes and such? Hopefully my comments make sense and are of some use. A question I was left with after reading the Homeworld section, that may not need an answer, is how/why did the Chapter become ingrained into the rites of the planet?

Hmm, I see. Copy pasting is one way to preserve some of the old BBCode, but it seems very inconsistent. I've tried multiple times to copy paste dropcaps, but they just won't stick. I have been able to copy past other things, like skull-less headers, tables, but it usually screws with the original formatting.

Most of the BBCode functionality went away with the site upgrade, unfortunately. Sidebars were mentioned in the below topic as a possible thing to reintroduce, but I haven't heard anything since and I wouldn't bet on it. I think the suggested fix is to make one of your own, in something like Excel, and then insert it as a picture instead. Kind of a hassle, but.... However, some Code functionality seem to still function. Since I'm here, I noticed you're using drop caps in your newer topics. I've been trying to make those work without success. Is this Code that still works or what?

I hope this takes off as I love to see the community work together. For various reasons, I can't dedicate too much time to this, but I would like to help when I can, and lurk in the shadows. I also formally nominate @Minigiant as project leader, seeing as this is your initiative. I want to echo what has been said about choice of successor. Non-UM successors are only underappreciated in the sense that there are less of them in the lore, but they are definitely not underappreciated by people making their own Chapters. People seem to gravitate towards the more "special" gene-seeds, and away from the "blandness" of Ultramarines, but often end up with Blue Salamanders or Green Blood Angels. Nothing wrong with this. My Heralds are basically a variation on the same themes of the Imperial Fists, but I do think it generally* leads to a more interesting Chapter (for other people to read about, at least) to start with an idea/concept/theme and then see how that idea works in the context of gene-seed. * an exception could be if we start with a specific idea of how a successor of the Blood Angels would deal with the Black Rage for example, and go from there. Likewise, Codex-compliant or not, Primaris or not, these are things that should (imo) stem from an idea/concept first, Unless the idea was tied to one of these aspects. For example, what would make a Chapter reject the Primaris technology? Maybe a Chapter so reliant on ritual and tradition, would keep to their old ways and continue making firstborn marines. But, if we are skipping the idea stage and going straight to voting on ideas from the random chapter thread, my vote goas to the Goal Wardens. Also I think some of the listed Chapters, like the Bloody Palms, are already "owned" by the poster and it would be strange develop that as a separate community Chapter.

Glad you liked it. I used Photoshop, the lineart and shading from this topic, and made the unique shoulder pads and symbols myself.

Looking good! What is the ideal size range for shoulder pad decals? @Master Commander Ajax How big is the one you used there? Would you mind sharing the sheet you sent to Scumb4g Kustoms, just to get an idea of how big each decal would be and how much space is needed on the sheet, etc.?

Heralds of Light - Intercessor I messed up my marine juice (lahmian medium - nuln oil mix) so it turned out a lot more grimier and textured than intended. But I leaned into it, and kinda liked the result.