Inquisitor_Lensoven

That’s a highly relative good. like saying the serial killer who only targets thieves is a good guy.

You’re thinking too literally. xenophobia is a real thing in real life. 40k’s xenophobia is mocking real life xenophobes. in 40K alien species are just place holders for other ethnic/racial groups. What good guys exist in 40K? gaunt? A man who would shoot a child without a second thought if he suspected they were chaos or xenos sympathizers? who exactly are these individuals who are ‘good’ even if they exist, this thread is about good guys at the faction level, not about scattered individuals. Humanity as a whole aren’t the masters of their own destiny in the imperium…. Not genocidal, not clearly authoritarian, etc. As for being the only human empire that could potentially prevent humans from going extinct, seems like it’s inevitable. lets look at Dante’s strategy to stop a hive fleet…bomb countless worlds until they’re literally dead. while the imperium might go on counter attacks against the tyranids, here and there, it’s a purely defensive fight atm, and if the most effective method of combatting them is to killing billions of people and destroy entire planets, then eventually the imperium will collapse as at some point there won’t be enough planets to support the imperium as a whole. thats ignoring the other reasons exterminatus gets ordered. It might take another million years but the imperium is killing off humanity rather than preserving it.

Not to mention GW themselves stating clearly that there are no good guys in 40k

What corruption? But mankind is and always has been overwhelmingly bad… So when the emperor went on a crusade to destroy religion and superstition to create the imperium he decided to set it up as a theocracy? Is that why the cult of the emperor didn’t actually pop up with any real power until many years after the heresy? edit not trying to be rude or anything but how old are you? All of your posts sound like what I’d expect from a rather immature juvenile. Have you taken even a HS level ethics and morality class?

I’d assume an adrenaline shot or something.

Still is a setting, and canon was still important 20 years ago.

I mean GW has come out and said there are no good guys in the last like 2 years or so iirc… Yep even with my own beloved blood angels we call them noble…but really? like good job, you’re not slaughtering innocent people to drink their blood. What a noble struggle. and then there’s the fact that blood angels are one of two chapters/gene lines specifically called out for actually caring about base line mortal humans, meaning the vast majority of marines don’t actually care about us little guys and are fighting and ‘defending’ us out of pure brainwashing resulting in some ineffable sense of duty without understanding what that duty is. That’s still stupid. my chapter is not canon, and we can all recognize that. My chapter is my own creation as are the stories surrounding it.

Everything is canon but nothing is true is absolutely stupid canon is what is true. Whether it’s true propaganda in universe, or it’s just a flat out fact in universe.

Bullgryn have tank track armor like that. Maybe if you sand them smooth they’d work. have to cut them off the chest armor though

Has it been retconned yet?

Shamans created the emperor by doing a ritual and sacrificing themselves or something…that doesn’t sound natural to me.

Most of what they’re doing these days is and an insult to us veterans. But apparently not insulting enough, either that or the new recruits eat it up, because they’re making money hand over fist off of us.

I never made it far into the HH series but I can answer the question about psykers. because of the chaos gods. Once the galaxy is rid of religions that either directly or indirectly worship them, they will essentially disappear. Once they’re gone there’s no demons, etc. once the chaos is gone from the warp, utilizing the warp is safer for psykers. Training can be more like driving a car ie how to do it safely and responsibly rather than focusing time on how keep demons from crawling out of your nostrils.

It’s unlikely that every alien species wanted to kill all humans. iirc from the HH series there were a few human/xenos empires destroyed. cooperation has been proven by science to be a better way to get a desired outcome over competition (when cooperation is possible)

Doesn’t change the facts that the emperor was a genocidal maniac.