War Angel

S10 AP3 is gravis/termi/ plague marine killer. Big difference than S9

Can we wish for tactica? Or more specifically wish for things on how the army plays?

Sure, they give 15 secondary points. And then your opponent never scores more than 20 on primary. That’s a fair trade.

That they increased the Guardsmen to 5,5 PpM didn made any Sense. At the current Statline a Guardsmen isn't worth 5,5 Points, heck he isn't even worth 5. I can't shacke the Feeling that we already pay for a buff the Guardsmen gets when the Codex drops. Pure infantry is pretty strong, dropping guardsmen down to 4 points again would be over powered for those of us who only use infantry. I could get another 5 squads with that. And I’m already doing good without those squads. Not even grots or guants cost less than 5, and we shoot them off the board.

Was looking at this thread and thinking of solutions to the las gun. Then I stopped. I don’t think there’s a way to fix it. We’re able to take so many of them, any bonus to them trickles down the line and becomes a massive boost. The weapon works great against T3 models, and isn’t too bad against T4-5 with lower AS (well, higher.... worse) give it an extra shot? Now I’ve got 200 extra shots on turn one. Those new sisters would weep. Even reducing the points back to 5 points per model, now I have an extra squad and some weapons. Plus they just increased those points. Wouldn’t make much sense I think the solution is what’s around the guardsmen. Fixing orders, fixing the medic, fixing the platoons. A guardsman and his lasgun are meant to hold the line, and do fantastic against the average foe, but the heavier boys, they need the attention of some heavier guns.

Put them in platoons, give them an option, “assistant gunner- for every model equipped with a lasgun in this squad that doesn’t fire this turn, another model gets rerolls to hit”

Agreed. However, I would dig a custom regiment option or a special character that unlocks them. Hmmm, I’d be more inclined on a bulgryn character or something. It’s still them being an addition to the regiment, but they’ve got some kind of... idk a commissar type guy that over looks them? Not 100% sure.

feel like ogryns and bulgryns shouldn’t be core due to Them being auxiliary. Same for ratlings and wydvane Edit spelling

Then we just go back to 5th edition where no-one takes conscripts because you already have to take a platoon commander and 2 infantry squads as tax. At that point you might as well just take more infantry squads to fill out the platoon. The problem with veterans is that they just make a special weapon squad redundant if they're in the same slot. Veterans are better as a separate unit. Can you elaborate on this? They are currently fighting for the same space, while with the suggested change they would both be individual parts of the same platoon, not fighting for space. One would cost a little more at better accuracy, the other is cheaper, with less extra bodies. Both would be usable for different roles on the table, I would still be taking both. Could even limit the vets to one squad while the special weapons could be 2 or 3

What vehicle lost T9? I don’t play several of the dex’s that have been released so I’m not aware of this. (Sorry in advance for off topic question)

Somehow, guard tanks need to become more durable. Maybe not with T9, but maybe a FNP mechanic similar to the orks.

If the comic is their only source of existence, then I would say they aren’t even a DIY chapter. The reason for this being they exist only as fictional miniatures in a fictional world. They have no story in the actual setting of 40k, only an existence on a table that doesn’t exist. This is of course assuming their created has not created an actual back story for them.

Just play large regular games. I found appoc didn’t care enough about the individual, there where no heros within the army (not just characters, the exceptional shot that comes from a squad) I played a 3000 point game a few weeks ago, and I would love to play a higher one in the future. Where are you, if your close I’ll play.

Thanks! Pretty much spot-on 3500. It’s a pity we’re so expensive, that’s a great looking army, looks fun to play as a full force, nice a ballenced selection of units.

That’s a fine looking army. I like how you’ve got them grouped up for the full shot. So what is it, 3,000 points?