Doghouse

I think it looks quite good, especially the customization and the campaign system. I may have to give it a bash.

Mine was the preview in White Dwarf for Rogue Trader. I was already collecting Warhammer stuff a couple of years before and when the article dropped it absolutely blew my tiny mind. There was a competition in the magazine where you could win a copy of the rulebook and I scoured that article for answers like my life depended on it. I can still vividly recall being sat at the dining room table as I read and reread fanatically studying every image and paragraph. along with the Gobbledigook cartoon strip in it. I vaguely remember Gretchin being one of the answers to a question that now alludes me, I didn't win but did convince my mum to buy me the book and the RTB01 marines on release.

So a genuine question, what are the credible chances of the B&C actually being picked up on this and what are the consequences?

TITH I actually did some hobby stuff for the first time in months. Started work on the marine element of a truescale 4th edition Witch Hunters army, not sure what Chapter to do them as just yet but making them pre return of the Primarchs. Planning on using a Spartan as a truescale Landraider and Sicarians as truescale Predator proxies both with some minor conversion work. Beauty of 4th edition is that it has proper vehicle design rules so may use that to give me the incentive to build one of my knights that is sat unopened.

I mean this with genuine affection, I love the CSI/JFK conspiracy levels of investigation that people will to go to prove or disprove if an image is real.

I remember when wargaming was a hobby.

I think the problem for a lot of people is that they impulse buy stuff and it sits in it's box for months or is never touched which is what reduces the value for money. The trick is to get off the product treadmill then evaluate whether you are getting the bang for your buck. I personally think it's easier to justify the cost if you are painting, building or playing on a regular basis rather than having it sat gathering dust. Right now I am working on building everything I currently have and putting together a 4th edition army. I think the normalization of the pile of shame though has become a detriment to the hobby in this regard to value.

I really like those, they'd be great for conversions as well.

3rd was ok but 4th was the peak for me which is why I have gone back to it, I think 3 to 5 are basically tweaks of the same edition with it going a bit pear shaped through 6 and 7.

I think they're goofy looking but ok. They might have looked better had they gone with shorter legs and a more robed look, something like the Heresy artwork books. They're leaning into the Blanche style quite heavily which can sometimes be a bit off putting if not done right but I can see the markers as forerunners to the modern versions. I think the rules would be the main clincher at the end of the day.

I'd say take a break and try not to be too critical of yourself. life happens and I think everyone needs a break from time to time. Absolutely nothing wrong with taking a step back and trying other things and often can act as a palette cleanser. The more you force it the more resentful you can become of what is supposed to be an enjoyable past time. One way to keep your foot in the door is read one of the novels, they're low commitment and you can dip in and out around life as it happens and come back to the hobby later. Remember the hobby is always going to be still here in some form or another so no rush.

I see to remember someone on here winning a GW giveaway many, many years ago. Mate of mine won a million on the UK lottery about eight years ago. Yeah I'm the same, if it had been like the old one then yeah I'd enter but most of this stuff doesn't appeal to me. Feels more like clearing out the studio stock cupboard than a proper giveaway. Bit surprised no Tzaangors though, probably the only thing they haven't tried putting them in!

I think they fit well with the modern aesthetic of the Heresy game but feel like they have lost a sense of bulk. They would probably provide nice parts for Primaris conversions. I think it's one of those models that could grow on me over time.

For me personally speaking yeah I would have genuinely been fine for it staying the same for another two decades to be honest. There is so much room for people to create their own lore in the ten thousand years prior that you could easily create massive events that have simply been forgotten or not recorded by the Administratum. You can create your own high stakes and still have it lost to time within the labyrinthian and poorly kept records of Terra. The lore has always been a framework for you as a player to build upon and create your own adventures. I have always been a firm believer in the players using their own imagination and to be fair there is nothing stopping GW retconning new items into the lore like they have done in the past with things like the storm eagle, vindicator, predator, etc. It's never really stopped them expanding in the past. We have even had new armies added such as the Necrons and the Tau prior to the 41st millennium and it never tanked the setting and new people continued to take up the game. In fact I'd say prior to 8th edition there was far more focus on the rules and balance causing issues than the lore. The other thing to remember is that the moving story can also create the same issues that you have raised filing in all the blanks bits of the canvas and uncovering all the mysteries that were never meant to be revealed with a glaring spotlight. Things like the Dark Angels being a favourite example of mine. The ten thousand years of shame that was a closely guarded dishonour to the Chapter to the point they would kill other Space Marines or Imperial Forces and their Primarch slumbering beneath the rock much like an Arthurian legend of old just hand waved away as the Lion wakes up and begins traveling around in a cloud of pine scented Febreze as he turned the Fallen into the Risen. It's this kind of stuff that sucks the darkness and mysticism from the setting and cheapens it for me as they just became a bland regular Chapter in my eyes. And the other thing to remember is that by progressing the story they are at greater risk of painting themselves into a corner. Truth be told it could have all been kept within the 41st millennium but objectively it doesn't fit in the what has become the mainstream corporate image of what the game universe has become. I personally think it's more about establishing a solid foundation they can copyright and license out to third parties generating cash streams where they have to do very little work themselves. But these are just the ramblings of an old man like me wishing for a return the good old days.

I preferred the game when it was much more of a retrospective sandbox setting with a focus on past events leaving players enough room to use their imagination to create their own little pockets of forgotten history. The two minutes to midnight that crept in from the Black Library ruined the setting for me personally and triggered the downwards spiral of the lore. I think it's more to do with the rise of Black Library and the success of the Horus Heresy series that has driven the need to have a progressing narrative which is fair enough because it's a corporate product now rather than a hobby. I'm not a fan of the fact that people said this is what has been asked of the setting for years when it clearly hasn't, I personally being one of the previously extremely active old guard can't recall anyone ever saying this. My personal take is probably fairly obvious I would have preferred it had the Primarchs never returned and the Primaris thing had just been rescaled Firstborn marines. I think the main issue is that if you don't like the way things are you will easily be forgotten and replaced by newer players who have not ever known it to be any different to how it is now. Tenth edition and it's setting is their entry to universe of 40k. Given the emphasis on nostalgia for items that most people in the hobby now probably never experienced first time around i think that GW are shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing electronic special edition previous editions of the game as a Legends series.