Doghouse

I think the Leviathan would prevent me buying multiples of this set because I couldn't see myself using multiples of it, something like a predator would have have been good. Other two look ok.

That's the thing about printing, I've got a company of mk ii, a company of mk iv and a company of mk iv I never touched. It's addictive once you get into it and the pile of shame grows to insane levels if left unchecked.

I'm magnetising mine for that reason, I think I am waiting till the next journal comes out because it focuses on them giving options for centurions I believe.

In all honesty I'd ignore whatever tidbits there are and just make one of the lost legions if that is what you want to do. I'm currently doing the 11th personally, the records of both are expunged so to be fair you can do what you want regardless. Anything any of us do isn't going to become canon so why worry? Put together an awesome Legion idea and go for it I say! As for your other idea, that's perfectly fine. One aspect of war that is massively overlooked when it comes to 30k is experimental warfare like the SOE in the second world war. Cawl probably wasn't the only one playing around with Primaris concepts and it's incredibly plausible that others were trying weird experiments on either side to give them the edge. The trick is not to tie this stuff to known characters in 40k like Malcador or the Emperor and instead create your own mad scientist type.

I think you'd be fine, Angron was discovered in the year 899.M30 so this gives you about a hundred years of the Great Crusade to play around as Warhounds from a fictional historical wargaming perspective. The armour itself was Late Unification Wars/Early Great Crusade, the latter having lasted from 798.M30 to about 004.M31. The Unification Wars ended in 712.M30 putting it's hypothetical use at around 660.M30 to maybe 850.M30 taking into account the roughly 80 years between the end of the Unification Wars and the start of the Great Crusade at a guess? It's entirely possible that the first time this armour was seen in true World Eater colours was probably at Isstvan IIII in 005.M31 and all previous versions were in Warhounds colours.

Just saw Wayland have put their prices up on the starter to £156 from £126 and showing zero stock, Dark Sphere have removed it completely, no idea what is going on there.

Nice one you're right thanks, I missed the heavy weapons option in the profile. That's much better from my plans

Glad to see the Pathfinder and Indomitus Terminators are back in.

Frater, let your tongues not stray into shadow. To say there are no good men in the Emperor’s realm is to speak in blindness, to turn from the quiet devotion of the humble scribe, the unshaken faith of the trench born Guardsman and the mercy of the Sister who prays over the broken and the lost. This is a dark age yes but even in darkness virtue endures. It is not loud, it does not boast for it is sacrifice and duty. It is faith that holds when all else falls away and at the heart of that flame stands Him on Holy Terra, not some forgotten myth nor a crumbling idol but the undying force that watches, wills, and weaves through us still. So I say to you now, speak not as if all are lost and instead look to the embers that burn within the faithful and know they are not our own but His, entrusted to us that we might carry His light through the longest night. Besides we all know the Tau are the real baddies...they don't even use swords or have skulls all over their armour, I mean seriously what is that all about???

I'm currently trying to see if I can put together a small force but finding information is surprisingly difficult to locate given that Youtubers are normally all over this stuff and there is in depth coverage. It feels like beyond the drama not many are covering it, which with the three year cycle where we could potentially see these books being scrapped, it's really difficult to go into this with enthusiasm or not feeling like the rug is going to be pulled from under me again. There is a lot of change to adapt to and it's hard to justify investing my free time. I am more than happy to try this game but they're not making it easy. I must admit my jaw hit the floor at how bare bones the units are and it seems their embracing conversions is along the lines of take turret from this and stick it on that tank and feels very hand holding. I had high hopes for reviving my Veterans army visualizing them as a proto-tactical unit with a heavy weapon and special weapon oozing with character only to have my bubble burst by the combi weapons/disintegrators/bolters limited load out and a pitiful selection of two heavier disintegrator weapons as heavy options. As I am wanting these to backwards compatible with second edition Heresy and 4th edition 40k it's a real downer to be honest. I'm also reluctant to buy into Saturnine for the same reason. I am hoping the PDF will allow me to salvage my Death Guard guys I was working on during second edition.

I think that's a bet you may win, I'm pretty sure they're changing the PDF at the moment to address people's concerns and Friday is a prime day to drop and walk away for the weekend in business circles. Not saying it will be bad just tends to be standard practice in most business. I'm hoping they keep the options of second, looking at the new libers has killed any thoughts I had of potentially trying out the game because the options are just so bland. It's like chewing gum you've been chewing for ages, the flavour is gone but you still keep chewing rather than spit it out and get some fresh gum. If they can inject enough of HH2 unit options into the game to give it character then I may be on board. The journal I looked at was quite interesting and I quite like the idea of the Auger Command and Control unit but I'm still on the fence for now.

I think it's probable that you will get maps when they do a Journal for Calth.

I'm really not a fan of this idea but I am more of an old school what's behind the mystery door kind of guy. My personal take is that they more they adopt a no stone left unturned approach the less interesting the setting becomes for me. I preferred the good old days before we knew everything about Primarchs as people rather than being the mythological beings of history they were always intended to be. I don't really buy into the giving the fans what they've been asking for all along mentality because at the end of the day they're doing it to sell more novels which for a publishing branch of GW is fair enough. I think it's more of a product now for a newer generation who never knew the days of making buildings out of pudding pots and hills out of stacked books with a great cloth over the top. I certainly do not expect everyone to share my feelings on this kind of thing though and am probably in the minority.

I may have just the thing.

I'm wondering how this impacts FLGS sales. From my casual delves into retail sales of the product Alcamist Workshops are still showing 341 copies of the starter in stock. I've also noticed the stand alone rules book has sold out in a lot of places, presumably because people have existing armies so I was wondering if people may just get the Saturnine models separately? I can't see how this is going to help FLGS' push more starter sets? I skipped getting the boxed set because I just wanted some MK II, if it wasn't released this early separately I may have caved and bought the starter.