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Yeah I was there when we went through that and despite not really being a fan of crossovers bought both. I think people are reading into what I have said a bit too seriously. Having played both the original Helldivers and Rogue Trader from day one I obviously have some skin in the game from a personal point of interest but I am just having some fun speculating. I know 99% of what I am saying will probably never happen and I know the history of the whys and whatnots and have been through the highs and lows of the game (die hard Creeker!) but just wanted to take part in the thread because it's not very often two things I am passionate about cross paths like this and I think the people of the B&C are great. So please don't feel like I am expecting to be taken seriously or have any insider knowledge of what is to come.

Yeah I know about the Dominator, the Eruptor was being touted as the new bolter because of it's explosive bolts. It's probably more like the Nemesis though. I also get how Legendaries work but if there was one to put additional stuff in the super credits store this would be a strong contender.

I'm not sure about these cross overs at times to be honest but they did an ok job of introducing the ODST stuff. It'll probably be ok, hard to predict the other possible armour to go with the Kasrkin. Not sure Scions would be a good fit visually, I think maybe Krieg or Steel Legion could be two possibilities because of the enclosed helmets. Already got a lot of shovel heads in the game so they may go that route. Certainly could do with some decent medium pen so hopefully the Hellgun or Hotshot will be that. Technically we already have a bolter proxy with the Eruptor so not sure about a bolter but the top left clip does look a bit like a larger bolt gun magazine to me. Guessing Krak or Melta bombs for grenades, Hotshot Lasgun/Bolter for primary, maybe heavy stubber/Heavy Bolter as a stratagem? Obviously bolt pistol as side arm, maybe some super credit store bits? I can't see them missing an opportunity to milk this one to be honest. Guess we will find out next week.

I had a feeling we'd see the tacticals and assault guys this week but am a bit surprised to see these. I think that's entirely possible to be honest which would be a shame. Having said that though I wasn't expecting combi-weapons to drop either so you never know.

I think they are ok but not a fan of the top loading bolter mag. I do like the single hand shotgun. I would like a sprue of alternative hands to be honest, stuff like pointing hands and bits that you can't get in most kits. One of the biggest frustrations is that or having all chainswords held in one hand and bolt pistols in the other with no option to switch them over.

I got this yesterday. The bad face is not just the paint job! I still have to build mine, will probably have it for a 4th ed guard army, but they are both huge. HIs head especially is pretty chunky which is confusing because at that scale you think they'd be able to make a decent face. As a cartoonish overly larger than life model it's fine, but if you are looking for something more in line with the current scale of models I'd say not so much.

Yeah, the back of the helmet is quite different as well. The socket is a bit odd looking as is the continuation of the cabling from the front around the back. Minor nit picks at best though, not sure if you can get them but the old Forgeworld helmets tended to be smaller than the original plastics so may work a treat.

Having got mine today I have to say these MK IV Tacticals are REALLY nice. The details are very crisp , the helmets take a bit of getting used to as they are a smidge taller as in elongated but not by much. I have cracked out the micrometer to measure the legs and other parts of the models and although they feel like they are bulkier they are the same as the MK VI. They have corrected the pose of one of the advancing marines that always used to bug me so that the torso is more upright which is great. The add on vambraces are ok but, like the Mk III, only cover the outer side of the arm where as the Tactical arms are fully encased. I think I will use the assault squad arms for characters and the like. Great kit and already cracked on with building them.

Probably a good idea mate. I have heard rumours from people that the game is going to be a lot more simplified and one much less believable one where the resin minis are going away. If I were invested I'd be downloading any PDFs from the GW site to be honest. At a 100% guess I'd say Skirmish could possibly be a branding they could apply to stuff like Kill team moving forwards.

I think this Mike McVey conversion may have influenced the design somewhat.

Possible Lost Legions Podcast, they've not posted in four months now. Guess it doesn't mean they're not still playing but maybe don't have time or anything new to post?

I get the feeling they kept a large part of the stock for the UK as it all seems to be still available over here. Australia seemed to run out really fast. I know people were having issues with the gw website not checking out.

I think it's a case of make you sure download any errata or PDFs from the GW site now rather than wait and see if the new system is better. The current edition has a ton of existing material and you can easily carry on playing as you did before. Just look at the new edition as a means to source more models worst case scenario. Campaign cards sound a bit iffy and the two main army books sound like Indexes to me with later fleshed out versions. My gut is telling me this may be a soulless edition but I could be wrong.

Yeah this is just stream stuff from the last one and not really confirmed lore other than a few quick comments. I personally think that Loyalist Primarchs should have remained mysterious Greek God style heroes of yester year. If they are going to release models for them I'd rather they did 30k plastics. I think Dorn may have been the first one in real world chronological order to have been mentioned as dead in the Ian Watson Space Marine novel back in '93 but it was both fists that were all that was left of him not just the one. "In transparent stasis-cases within, with magnilenses inset, hung Rogal Dorn’s fleshless fists, entire, scrimshandered with intricately wrought tiny miniatures of heraldic honours."

Yeah instead of doing shields like the MkII and Mk VI they went with spears. I do like that one is one handed allowing you to go full Spartan by adding a shield from one of the other kits, command squad has some too. It does mean you can make veteran Assault squads with spears but hoping if they do MkV they have the option for all lightening claws which I personally think a lot of people would have preferred. Great for Blood Angels players though.