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Yes.

Khorne above...just nope. Other long running systems eventually get to a point where a retro clone is produced and embraced. 40K desperately needs that at this point.

The retcon was with 5th, 9th was bring them back to their 3rd edition tone instead of all Tomb Kings all the time is a return to form.

Hardly, Necrons were fixed with the 9th reboot. The Primaris lore can never be redeemed.

If you are going to make a claim about people's motivations, you should expect a response to lead to further discussion. So practice what you preach I suppose, or you'll just see commentary you don't like in response to your mistaken assumptions.

The design of the models by and large is not a problem. I even mentioned once they hit 9th, 10th core release and especially BT and SW, they found a sweet spot. The lore is objectively bad and out of line with 40k for decades at that point, and Cawl is a lore abomination, but hey, at least the models are decent now for the most part.

Nah, my issue with Primaris has always been the lore, I've never seen them as anything but the obvious rescale they are, but the lore is a joke and the grav tanks are hideous. And a way to get loyalists to buy whole new armies of Marines of course.

I'm sure you are joking, but no. The heart of the issue was terrible lore, ugly vehicles, and the initial roll out was a bit too clean. Once they hit the guys with the massive Shields, the Black Templars, and Wolves, and heck the Sternguard, it became obvious GW could fix the models. The terrible lore, rules, and grav vehicles will persit until they go into Legends, but the troopers don't have to suck. So let's go GW, release Marines in the.new scale with the old armor, don't even call them primaris, update the rules to let them take Rhinos, and we can all move on from the primaris mistake.

All they need do is release the old armour marks in the new scale, and all the primaris chatter other than their comical lore and the stupid rules goes away. I doubt anyone argues that the og Marines actually look better, they have not aged well.

10 / 10

Once the final Marine kit disappears, I give it one more edition before its "Primaris? What Primaris?" And it's just Astartes again.

Throwing Tacticals, literally the cornerstone of GW into Legends is some kind of blasphemy. Newish kits going in too? LOL if you enjoy being on that particular treadmill? Buckle up.

Man thats tragic, one of the best kits in years, and it could end up under produced and out of stock for months. Way to kill the hype, every time, with poor stock issues.

A kit worthy of starting an army over. Looks amazing.

Looks like he's going to be big.