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W.A.Rorie reacted to a post in a topic: New Sisters Kill Team!
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New Sisters Kill Team!
Bonzi replied to W.A.Rorie's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
The upshot is, even if their 40K rules are meh, they're still a great unit to mix into your regular Sisters/Dominions squads to give more character to individual squads. Especially true for Crusade when they may help represent upgrades a squad has earned. -
New Sisters Kill Team!
Bonzi replied to W.A.Rorie's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
The Sanctifiers unit has scads of flamers built into it for 40K. I'm not sure KT limits translate into 40K. For 40K, there new moto seems to be a rule for every weapon on the sprue. -
Sume reacted to a post in a topic: New Sisters Kill Team!
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New Sisters Kill Team!
Bonzi replied to W.A.Rorie's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
Well that is Sisters lane. At least these will have a 3+ armor save unlike the Sanctifiers. The article today indicates they are Witchhunter Celestines so they're armed with null weapons and and condemnor bolt pistols. If that gear holds true to what we already have it will mean a unit with a 4 or 5+ FnP vs psyker attacks and devastating wounds with anti-psyker 2 or 3+ with precision. Hopefully their 40K rules give them a bit more width in their abilities beyond beyond being a nightmare for T. Sons and Grey Knights. -
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New Sisters Kill Team!
Bonzi replied to W.A.Rorie's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
They look so good that I'll buy them regardless of rules, but I do hope they bring something interesting to the army for 40K. -
INKS reacted to a post in a topic: Leagues of Votann Second Wave
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40 Leagues of Votann Second Wave
Bonzi replied to Lord Marshal's topic in + NEWS, RUMORS, AND BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS +
Modifiers can't exceed more than +1/-1 in total. In this instance indirect fire will impose a -1 to hit and the target will gain cover, so +1 to their save not to exceed a 3+ save. Heavy grants +1 to hit if the weapon has not moved. So indirect fire + heavy cancel out and leave you at a 5+. If you are shooting indirect fire and have not moved and your or the target grants a +1 to hit based on yield, that's a -1 and +2 to hit, putting you at a 4+. Shooting direct with heavy and with a yield bonus is 2+ to hit, but the modifier limit again puts you at a 4+ to hit. So 50/50 hitting at best and indirect fire will cancel out your AP -1. At max 10 dice shot with max hit bonus will get you 5 hits, assume 3+ to wound vs most infantry targets means 3-4 wounds with no rend....you're probably killing 1 Marine per mortar. My assumption is that the units special rule isn't shown which may make targeted units move slower or remove cover. These mortars are probably utility units, not straight damage output. -
W.A.Rorie reacted to a post in a topic: The End and the Death (new dataslate)
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The End and the Death (new dataslate)
Bonzi replied to Emperor Ming's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
I do like the Crusade. I had hoped this edition would see Crusade expanded and improved in the books but honestly it was mostly a copy paste from the previous edition. Natchmund Gauntlet was a fantastic book but the wave reinforcements were needlessly complicated. I personally think some of the deep strike mechanics in Natchmund were testbeds to make deep strike and reserves more interesting in the next edition. -
The End and the Death (new dataslate)
Bonzi replied to Emperor Ming's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
Well, 3 year vs 6 year is a distinction without a difference if we have to eat an index every three years. Don't get me wrong, they did a decent job on the indexes....but that's a punishment cycle for whoever is the last three dexes of the edition. I already think GWs sales of the late dexes are gonna suffer after what they did to World Eaters and Guard last edition....here's your book...and it's no longer relevant. -
The End and the Death (new dataslate)
Bonzi replied to Emperor Ming's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
I hope and pray to the emperor that we don't go index again. I'm sick of the dex grind and don't want to reset to index again. That said, I think the writing is on the wall that when Sisters do get their new dex, miracle dice are gone. GW has learned the dice substitute mechanic does not balance well. -
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The End and the Death (new dataslate)
Bonzi replied to Emperor Ming's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
I don't know as I would assume sisters will get much of a point change in November. We are on the last few dexes for the edition and decent odds has them announcing the next edition early next year. Unless an army is massively underperforming I wouldn't expect the next point balance to be revolutionary because by November we will be in the end game of the edition. -
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Adjustable Leader Options
Bonzi replied to morqendi's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
Don't forget our humble Dialogus. Turning any miracle dice used for her unit into a six is great tech for getting use out of low roll miracle dice. That plus a one off removing battleshock from a unit within 12" is great given how cheap she is points wise. Double value for the Detachment that lets units use two miracle dice. -
[2000] Army of Faith List
Bonzi replied to morqendi's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
Rule of cool is just as important as viability in a lot of ways. If a unit makes you happy, make sure to get it into your list. Win or lose, a rule of cool army always wins. It also helps with motivation for painting models. I love the shear utility of Seraphim. They're great utility/action units, they're dangerous on overwatch, and great harassment. Put the cannoness in one squad and Celestine in the other. Guaranteed fun. -
morqendi reacted to a post in a topic: [2000] Army of Faith List
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[2000] Army of Faith List
Bonzi replied to morqendi's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
If you're running the Army of Faith detachment, I'd say the biggest thing you're missing is another squad of Seraphim/Zypherim. Most of the strats for that detachment key off of being area of effect if a jump squad is nearby. With only one squad your opportunities are limited. Some melee punch wouldn't be terrible. If you want to win melee you'll probably need arcos. If you just need to slow down melee threats 5 man Sacresants or Penitent engines will do well. I like Mortifers because they come with twin heavy bolters which is a lot of Dakka and makes them a good utility unit that can do actions, shoot well, and can threaten weakened units. Personally I love Exorcists as an iconic Sisters unit and an amazing model...but this edition they've never done anything but disappoint me. D6+2 shots on damage D6 weapons....it's guaranteed to break your heart every time. GW has really over priced these guys because of their indirect fire. Another Castigator will do more damage and improve the rest of your army more, for fewer points. -
The End and the Death (new dataslate)
Bonzi replied to Emperor Ming's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
I ran the Sisters out against some Space Marines after the latest balance patch. I would say with the new changes we now at least have two good detachments in Martyrs and Champions. Zephrim feel better without the miracle spend for their abilities. Retributors now are at least a neutral choice rather than being bad. I don't understand how Castigators got a points drop rather than the Exorcist. Generically I would say we should be closer to that 50% win rate that they kicked us down from. -
Sanctifiers Rules are live on the app
Bonzi replied to W.A.Rorie's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
The models are fantastic but I agree with the Goonhammer review that the unit at 100pts doesn't really give us anything we need. It's just another infantry unit competing for the same roles as Battle sisters, Novitiates, and Dominions. I do like how many flamers the unit can carry and there are some fun rules in there, especially the miracle lady who can open hand slap someone for 3 damage devastating wounds -
The End and the Death (new dataslate)
Bonzi replied to Emperor Ming's topic in + ADEPTA SORORITAS AND THE ECCLESIARCHY+
Well, it looks like the balance update is in and we have a partial walk back of the miracle dice nerf, and a handful of units getting a welcome points cut. Now we at least get a miracle dice for every unit which dies so overall we are down by probably 1/3rd of our miracle dice rather than 2/3rds. Arcos, Repentia, Sacresants, Seraphim, Zypherim, and Dominions all taking a cut are welcome. The disappointments for me are Retributors and the Exorcist remaining inexcusably over-costed. I also think they should have taken back the nerf to Bringers of Flame range.