Marshal Reinhard

Is there any real question to that?

Afaik only availble in the space wolves kit as of now

Dawn of War? Lasguns are red while the lascannons are blue on the landraider and predators as I recall....

While the BT one is good, miles ahead of any of its counterpart upgrades released at the (roughly) same time, it does suffer from being part of that first wave of upgrade kits. It, like the others released for 8th(9th) edition, basically only has pads for standard intercessors and aggressors. The new DA, BA, and now UM upgrades has pads meant for phobos, blade guard, as well as Terminators, the latter I feel the lack of most keenly. A significant portion of the kit is also dedicated to giving a third armament option for the neophytes from the crusader kit, so there's overall less heads and pads than in these second generation kits. Of course what the BT upgrade does do is that it works fantastically in conjunction with the aforementioned crusader kit as well as the sword brethren kit, from which you can source a lot of additional shoulder pads and heads, helmeted or otherwise. But it still leaves the gaps mentioned above. I doubt a renewed upgrade kit addressing said gaps will be forthcoming, much less a bespoke BT terminator kit. Oh well. This new UM upgrade kit is their best one yet, and perfectly on par with the previous DA and BA one.

Wasn't this rumor judged to be an obvious fake, like 2 posts in? How are we on page 6? As much as I think new LotD kit would be cool, they've not really had one since... 2nd edition? Mostly metal and some plastic? There are other things I'd rather see and think are in greater need of a release, like updated Grey knights.

* adjusting glasses* akkkushyally since they're lightning claws I believe it should be smashy/scratchy weapons.

Only Blood Angels and Dark Angels have gotten any terminator bits from their renewed upgrade kits, owing to them coming post the terminator embiggening.

Not sure if i would agree still but your arguement holds enough sway for me to abandon any aspirations of disagreeing

The new kit highlights the need (or at least deep rooted want) for chapter specific upgrades. The terminators themselves look better than they ever have but I really miss the old forge world upgrade kits which even had gorgeous unique looking storm shield for BT (a design reused as recently in the bulwark cosmetic kit for space marine 2 but I digress...) What does look rather promising for people looking to get a full squad of both variants, assault and normal is the ability to mix and match bodies from the kits effortlessly

That idea behind the comparison would only have been relevant for the initial wave of Cawls homegrown marines. Most marines are primaris now, with a good chunk of that being ascended firstborn. Calgar, Dante, Azrael, Grimnar, Helbrecht etc are all primaris now. 'New' vs 'old' for experience makes little sense when the old are literally the new now. And for the longest time being a veteran within a space marine chapter means having earned the privilege to wear terminator armour. Not all chapters have enough suits to let every one of their veterans equip the armour at the same time, which is why veterans in power armour are still adorned with the crux terminatus. The dark angels were actually somewhat of an outlier because everyone in the deathwing wore it. So veteran status typically meant having terminator honours even if it didn't mean you always wore it, so implying that terminators are more veteran than other veterans make little sense to me. Both type of marines, primaris or not can also wear the suit.

I for the life of me cannot get the weird "growths" to look like cables hence the disagree. Not differentiated enough from the material they're next to.

Already have my own ancient, got a full set of 10 regular terminators, got the chaplain, got the captain. Still finding myself debating whether I should get a box.

Assault Terminator. Yes. A bit surprised about the shields retaining the square shape. Never been the hugest fan of that look. Also really really lament the vanishing of forgeworld's old Terminator upgrades right about now (even though there's bajillion printed alternatives online at as many differing quality levels) Of course the Terminator Ancient rumor was true. It was a given because I'd converted my own just a few months ago.

As a game unit, it's perhaps needlessly specific. Do you give one enemy faction out of a dozen special anti rule, or is the unit just merely extra hardened? As a modeling project it's potentially a lot cooler, and it'd be nice to see them make a unit, where they go all out with battle damage, cybernetic replacements and bug parts

The only obvious addition to UM at this point would be the addition of Tyrannic War veterans and upgrade sprue (besides more characters, but they're pretty much dominating that area already as have they always). Something can also be said of the fact most generic space marine units that are decorated in some fashion are so in a way that fits the UM aesthetic specifically. Aquilas, Wreaths, the roman leather tassel things I can never remember the name of, etc. That said, the first generation primaris upgrade sprue is a meager offerring. Conversely, if one were to drop a UM collector would potentially be able to get a lot of mileage out of it.