ShadowCore67

You could build into that more and take graviton arquitors, they leave a massive blast sized dangerous terrain circles. Phosphex weapons leave permanent dangerous terrain markers.

I want to be excited for LI but everytime they preview more stuff like this it just annoys me that this release is getting more love than mainline 30k.

Here me out on this... The forgeworld 30k Outriders kit uses the plastic scout bike kit as a base. If the scout bikes are being discontinued.... Plastic 30k Outriders confirmed?

I wouldn't be surprised if everything we see for this will also be in plastic for 30k. I'm basically under the assumption we will. Meaning 30k is getting plastic deredeos and rapiers.

The Dark Angels losing their hexagrammaton option isn't worth the small increase in firepower. It also means they can't be taken in 5 out of the 6 Dark Angels rites because they all require your troops choices to have the respective subtype.

But there's no plastic MkV either, so that's a huge mistake. You could argue that MkIII is the only mark with drastically different vambraces and that's why they aren't saying MkIII

I don't disagree that they should, but for Sedras, I think the intention is he takes his retinue of inner circle. For Redloss, just give him a thematic command squad I guess?

Love the additions but I find it really odd they did specific models for SoH and IF instead of generic ones. Especially since SoH and IF are getting character models on top of these. Guess I'll just be kitbashing from the regular tank crew model

I wonder how they're going to balance "troops" choices to still be desirable since they're not required. Maybe better OC across the board?

I'm sorry but what type of tone deaf decision was it to make these resin? The special/heavy weapons are plastic. This makes zero sense.

I guess it's a good thing we're complaining about which plastics we're getting instead of about getting plastics at all. It's nice to see all these tanks but throw us some damn infantry stuff.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I was really hoping for a different armor mark on the riders. Oh well, still look great

What are people's thoughts on Eskaton Imperative? I've seen a good amount of players saying it's oppressive and not fun to play against, but I don't really see it. The couple friends I've played it against didn't mind. Yeah it makes no man's land difficult terrain but all you have to do is subtract 2" from your movement, it's nothing too complicated. The +1 to wound is niche and the destroyers/interemptors being troops isn't that amazing since they don't get line. In terms of downsides, it forces us to give most of our units one of the almost useless wing bonuses and our opponent can pretty easily get an extra D3 victory points.

I'm not unhappy with the way they represented DA with heavily leaning into the wings, because I do like it. But I would have preferred if they kept that to the Rites and just made the DA legion rule that they have access to a massive unique armory to represent all the special stuff big E let them have. I dislike how much they leaned into the "haha plasma go brrr" idea from 40k. Example is in the Lion book, there's essentially a cenobium squad that's equipped with basically nerve induction shredders, but all we get is plasma flamers. I do think most of our rites are solid. The only ones I'd say are lacking are Deathwing and Ravenwing. Deathwing because it's just a worse Pride that relies on the mission you're playing having objectives. Ravenwing is more a result of the things it gives you being bad on their own. Bikes and jetbikes aren't too hot right now and outflank isn't very good either. Also rampage on a cavalry HQ that is most likely going to be with a cavalry retinue probably won't trigger very often.

Random thought that occured to me while reading another discussion. Can Alpha Legion technically take Deathwing Companions with Rewards of Treason? The unit itself fits the requirements of having the Legion Astartes (X) rule, but their Deathwing Retinue specifies they can only be taken with a Legion Astartes (Dark Angels) model with Master of the Legion, which the Alpha Legion leader would not fit the requirements for.