Izlude

I just finished this one as well. I was pretty stocked that John French was doing another book. While I am not a diehard titan fan (even though I bought Adeptus Titanincus for the models) this was the highlight of the book. Wanted to give my impressions for those who have not read it yet although I am sure those will get it when it is general release. General theme: So this book is sort of a nexus book (which I think French mentions in his afterword) which brings in many plots together to set up the last few books in the series. So with that you really jump from one plot to the next in a brisk manner. No chapter was too long and just when some stuff was getting good it moves to the other plot for better or worse. In that manner French has done a fantastic job in that regard. It was clear he did his homework and I think there were some good easter eggs for those who have followed the series from the beginning. I am sure I missed some special appearances and will have to go via the spoilers later. Strengths: Obviously with the title Mortis, it was always going to be a stand off with the main titan legions. I have to say French did really well here. It was clearly my favorite parts of the book. I really liked Solaria from Titandeath and glad they featured heavily here. The main knight house was also really well done and I enjoyed the drama within that knight house and the ending related to that was really good and satisfying. The unrevealing of the secret titan was well done but I have to say I am not entirely clear what the special powers were and in the overall grand scheme they didn't seem to do much to justify all the drama surrounding said secret titans. The emperor/horus warp encounter was really good while super short and sprinkled here and there. I love how it follows the overall progression of the war on Terra and the book ends with this warp encounter which is also well done. The other strength of this book was the relevant DA stuff. You get good Corswain action and French weaved in their "super secret" trait well as well. Also I know some people were not a fan of how the IW were handled but I actually thought it fit very well with Perturabo's character, sort of a big baby personality that he always has had. Weaknesses: I do have to say in general this book took me longer than usual to get through. I would read a few chapters, take a few day break and go back to it. I think it being a nexus book of sorts, you get alot of arcs that honestly I was sort of neutral on. I think French used alot of view points, however small, to give it a big feel to the siege which I think largely accomplished that but honestly it was ALOT of hummie POV. I do appreciate some hummie perspectives but I do feel we had like 90% hummies and 10% SM...I am here for SM! Although not all the SM stuff was strong...for instance the Shiban thing had me yawning and I sort of skipped via it and when I read the last parts of it I don't think I missed anything. I am sure there was some White Scar symbolism thing there. Also the perpetual arc...this one was little painful and I also skipped via it. The perpetual stuff from the last book was great but I know French was setting up this arc for the final showdown. Also that little surprise in the end...still not sure what it was suppose to mean, I'll have to read the spoilers for that one. Conclusion: As a nexus book for the last few books, I think it accomplished it well. French is a very capable writer (a top 3 for me) and were this type of book in someone else's hands I don't think it would have been done as well. I just think there were way too many arcs and would have benefited with more SM stuff although at like 550 pages or whatever it is a big book! In any case Saturine and his first book to start the series are my favorite. I actually enjoyed the Last Wall more that this one as well. Perhaps this one is better than Lost and the Damn which is still a decent book.

I am too very excited that John French is doing book two. I swore when I read his afterword in the first book he was not doing any other books with the siege finale so happy that is not the case. I am not a big fan titan centered book (much like void wars) and hope that it will be more focused on the characters which I am sure it will be. I didn't see but when does pre-order go up?

Just finished the book last night with some thoughts LE: It is a nicely presented LE book with a cool profile pic of Luther in the front. The use of "Caliban" green on the hard cover as well as the side of the pages gives it a nice theme that is well thought out. The only "art work" is a picture of Luther holding his sword with the tip resting on the ground with the creepy forests of Caliban in the back ground. Overall, I feel this is a solid LE book. Story: I think I mentioned in the a previous post I am not particularly crazy about the DAs given the variable quality of their storyline in the HH series which may have been related to the different authors. I know Gav as written many but not all of the main DA stuff. I have always been interested in the Luther arc from second edition with his imprisonment on the Rock so the premise of this book got me excited. In general, the story was excellent to outstanding. Gav does Luther as a first person perspective alternating with Luther's timeline as a prisoner on the rock with various DA chapter masters or grandmasters (or whatever title they use) through the ages and flashbacks of his past with some well-known HH events sprinkled in there for good measure. Gav hit it on the nail, the writing was just top form and I was engaged the the whole time. I don't think there were any "revelations" in the book and I really liked how Gav balanced the DA stuff and didn't make them particularly super secretive or this legion with all the cool tech etc. As far as side stories go, this is definitely one of my favorites and in terms of Gav's book it is up there with his Lorgar Primarch book. His earlier books on RG and DA were fine (nothing amazing but readable) but I strongly recommend this book. I really liked the ending as well which wasn't anything new but left the door open for a continuation.

I also just pre-ordered my copy. While I am not a huge DA fan, the whole Luther arc was always an interest to me since like second edition. His whole being locked up deep in the catacombs and mumbling stuff. I think this one will be good. I do think Gav has really hit a stride the past couple of years. I was never a fan of his early DA and RG stuff but I think in general his writing has vastly improved. His later works like Lorgar was easily a top 3 Primarch book for me. I think this one will be very solid. I wish I can say the same for Guymer's stuff...his DA stuff is pretty bad as well as his IH stuff...like easily the worse I have read. Also that cover art of him holding the sword is very Azrael-like from the older (second edition?) pose. Love it!

Yeah I saw it for 4 bucks. Even though I already own the LE, hard to pass up a 4 dollar buck book. I am maybe about 5 chapters in and really loving it so far. Guy's world building is quite good. I would say Wraight does it best in the New Imperium world but honestly Guy is not that far behind. His Guilliman is very very good, much like Dark Imperium. There is alot of depth to him and this coming from someone who tends to be overly critical how my fav primarch is handled. I am not a void battle person but the first one in chapter 3 or 4 is actually very well done and kept me engaged. Of course my favorite parts so far are seeing the wayTerra is through the eyes of the "common" person. He really captures the feeling of just being some tiny cog in a huge machine...easily replaceable and sort of depressing! The LE copy is quite lavish so glad to have this ebook for a bargain price. Like almost no reason for people not to get for a very good book.

So I was talking with a friend about Sons of the Selenar with regard to Sharrowkyn and wasn't sure if this book shed any light on what the deal with Magnus and Sharrowkyn was? I recall that in the Seventh Serpent (A pretty good book) that in the end there was an interaction with Sharrowkyn and Alpharius. Alpharius basically says to Sharrowkyn "I'd kick you arse but magnus wants you alive." I thought there would be some more about this later but I don't recall seeinh much about this in Sons of the Selenar. Not sure if this book mentions this or if anyone know?

Finally received my LE copy in the mail yesterday. I am about 3 chapters in and really enjoying it. I read his interview and what this new series will be and very excited about this. It wasn’t clear to me if this new series is going to be like the HH (50+ books) or a more focused like The Beast Arises with their 10 books or so? In general, not a big fan of the primaris stuff but as someone who has been into the lore and gaming here and there with 40k (mostly lore and occ painting) having guilliman come back has been something I have looked forward to since when the second edition came out. I thought his Dark Imperium was excellent (Book 1 more than 2 but looking forward to Book 3). He does humans really well, I would say on the same level as Abnett. I still remember the ones he did in Pharos which really stood out to me and the priest in DI. His Guilliman is amazing and has portrayed both why he is the primarch with foresight but also makes it very clear he is weary and disappointed with the current state. Also as someone has mentioned, “trying really hard not to punch their head off.” I definitely like the character list and the book itself is beautiful. I do like the Siege of Terra LE look so glad they decided to follow this trend. Look forward to reading this one and hope the big names like French, ADB, Wraight and maybe even Abnett have a hand in this. I have a lot of confidence in Haley. His production to quality ratio is unmatched

About 30 pages in. I have intentionally avoided the spoilers except it sounds like issues with inconsistencies with what is in the old fluff. I think i have a good feel for what has been written but don't think I wold pick up the subtle stuff. After reading Sons of the Selenar and First Wall (both great reads by the way), it makes me realize that Chris is in another league for sure. Right off the bat in the first 3 pages he had me hooked. The pre-imperium world building with the place and the current state is just plain awesome. I was going to space out the reading to just plain enjoy it...like when you order a 100 dollar steak and want to eat it slowly (I never ordered a 100 dollar steak but I am sure I would eat it slowly). I might end up devouring this one by the weekend. Will write more after but awesome...I want more!!!

Got the regular edition from Amazon today. Wow fast, I pre-ordered two days ago for 2/4/20 and came on the day of...love amazon. Anyways totally looking forward to this. I wonder if this book is being used to gauge the general interest in the Unification stuff? Anyways I love the Thunder warrior stuff and I hope there is more in this time period...would total kill. I would prefer this time period more to the scouring.

Just finished the book as well. In general, I have really enjoyed the Tyro, Sharrowkyn, Wayland, and Tarsa exploits in the series. The Shattered Legion material is much like the series with some hits and some misses. Some of the shattered legion stuff like Meduson (both the story and the collection) has been some of the best material within the HH series. I personally love Sharrowkyn despite others feelings on him. So on to my thoughts: Book: As has been the case with the SoT so far, the book is gorgeous, just a smaller version of what we have seen. I absolutely love the "marble busts" of key characters and seeing what Wayland and Sharrowkyn look like is great. They totally look badass as well as Tarsa and the Luna witch. Yes the book is pricey but I don't feel ripped off, it is a quality LE for sure. Story: I will say I think McNeill ended on a very good note here. Not much in the way of action (a good thing) but alot of introspection with the characters we have have seen grow via the series. The focus is mostly on Sharrowkyn and obviously the rest of the crew. I am not sure if it was the cry of Mary Sue from the community but Sharrowkyn was definitely toned down in this book...like I don't even think he kills a single person in this book! We do get some behind scene stuff on Luna and the gene witches (would love more in this area as it has a lot of potential). Towards the end you get closure with the lead characters and is sort of sad. I thought the ending was appropriate and definitely touching to me. Yes the reference in the very end was lost to me until I now read the spoilers...I think it is fine, no different than the Pharos reference. I actually enjoy these sort of links, feels like it makes things more continuous as opposed to isolated things. All in all I am happy with the book as a LE and also the content. I think if you have been following this story arc (AE and Seventh Serpent) you will not be disappointed.

Pre-ordered mine later so luckily didn’t sell out like a normal LE siege of terra book. I am looking forward to this one, I love Sharrowkyn...I know he is a love-hate guy...but damn it the loyalists needs a badarse. As for novellas, Cybernetica was indeed the worse in my mind...had so much potential and I love mars stuff but came off as a cheap video game with a final boss to boot! The Purge and Aurelian were epic reads in my mind. Focused and just a great read (have read several times over the years).

Pre-ordered mine later so luckily didn’t sell out like a normal LE siege of terra book. I am looking forward to this one, I love Sharrowkyn...I know he is a love-hate guy...but damn it the loyalists needs a badarse. As for novellas, Cybernetica was indeed the worse in my mind...had so much potential and I love mars stuff but came off as a cheap video game with a final boss to boot! The Purge and Aurelian were epic reads in my mind. Focused and just a great read (have read several times over the years).

With the HH series (cashcow) coming to a close they will need something else to keep things going. I wonder if these books are sort of a test to gauge interest in this setting? I am def for this as I think the unification stuff is super interesting with thunder warriors and early founding SM, malcador, etc. Scouring would be great but I don’t think there are any books in this setting?

Excited for the book but little bummed it is Guymer writing it. I thought the Ferrus book was probably my least favorite Primarch book which may or may not be related to Ferrus himself since he he comes across as a dullard in many books. I also thought his two books in the Beast Arises series was some of the weaker ones as well. Maybe it is just me but I could only get via the first ten pages of Deathwing and stopped. I will end up getting this since I have always been interested in the Dark Angels but agree, they as a whole could use more work and need a revival (Wraight to the White Scars).

I agree using the cover is little lazy! Maybe it will change? Although it is too close to release to be a place-holder. Def will get this one. Slightly off topic but anyone know if the LE first book for the siege will be March as advertised before? I wanted to order together to get free shipping. I think anything less than 50 to the US incurs a pretty high shipping charge so I try to lump books together. I was going to order Buried Dagger, but just got it as a ebook since the response here has been luke warm. About 1/4 way in and I have to agree...sort of a one and done book thus far.