Shadowseer

Yeah, good on GW to get it right this time.

Just... take your land speeders in larger units? They need to draw the line somewhere, and this is one of the better iterations of character targeting rules. 40k is ultimately a game, and not a perfect simulation of warfare. Thankfully

I feel this list would really shine packing Assault Intercessors instead of plasma tacticals, as you would trade 4 3D plasma shots for killing power in assault plus double the wounds for that aggression potential. From my two games against smolmarines, they die quite too easily to things I'm packing.

Anyone in this thread actually played a game of 9th with Dark Angels (or a game of 9th at all)? A lot of theorycrafting, but I would be quite interested to hear from people's experiences.

This is a beautiful colour scheme!

BTW, what's your planned army going to look like? Working on some melee Wraith units myself, as a compliment to my artillery.

Oh that sucks :( GW support is good though, they should get you sorted quickly.

Your conversions are top notch, keep it up!

For me it did, I struggled a lot in the early parts of the book because I didn't find Amadeus interesting (which is impressive because I like how the Mentors fight lol). I think Amadeus as a character was designed to contrast as much as possible with Spears first, then was fleshed out. IMO the story gets better as more characters are introduced and he becomes less of the focal point and grows a bit as a character. The other part of the story that it took me awhile to figure out was who the villain is. The real challenge that the characters face in this story is isolation. In most 40k books there tends to be rival that a character needs to overcome whether by fighting them or in some cases figuring out how to work together with them. Spears does have those rivalries but being Isolated from the imperium and how they try to handle it is the real conflict. Very good observation. This story is quite atypical for BL as there is no one who needs their face smashed in for the protagonists to prevail. Instead they have to deal with their own sense of isolation, trauma, betrayal and search of purpose. May not be everyone's cup of tea. On a personal note, I was recovering from a minor surgery while reading the book, and certain parts resonated really deeply with what I felt at the time.

Finished the book a minute ago. Wow, just wow. Absolutely the best book I have read in 40k.

TBH that's a shocking amount of negativity towards GW and Primaris stuff. I sincerely hope most people in the thread are just taking the piss. Nevertheless, and however you field your troops, I hope you enjoy the hobby.

I would like to point out that it's very much not the case in the official fluff. One example would be Gabriel Seth in the latest DA novel. While Dante is super happy about new primaris units, Seth points out that it's the end of old marines. Another would be DA, who grudgingly accepted the primaris, and seem to use them as meatshields. I'm not the biggest fan of some heavy-handed writing GW produced, but why be so negative about an excellent model range?

I love the SW stratagem they showed in the blog post! Now I can run the wolf commander from Burning of Prospero as a Lone Wolf in my DA army and actually get some strategic value out of that. At least for fun and narrative games that is.

A Dark Vengeance? It's a stupid grin. I think, like all Primaris Marines, he's a noble, optimistic fool who doesn't realise what he's let himself in for by joining the Dark Angels. But... he was born this way!

@SinnerBeta piloting is mentioned in 'Pharos' by Haley. And what's so special about riding a _motorcycle_? Even some people can manage it, not just superhuman soldiers.