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thats better then expected. What about crusader squad? 215 for a LRC + 40 + ( i think 20x2 for hurricane bolter) + mm?.. EDIT: 15/14 Initiates / Neophytes. at least not more expensive then tacticals and scouts. LRC 215 Hurricane Bolter 15 each T.Assault Cannon 40 Total of 285, before was 264

Ultramarines...I'll burn some oils and pray for you brother.

You think? So far we've seen generic SM models and I'd think they'll start with Ultras characters first and then a pretty slow trickle down the line, not to mention all of the chapter specific transports and such which is also a big unknown...will they keep the whole line generic apart from characters? Still not buying primaris myself, just got a Redemptor as it doesn't really disrupt the army scale but should they keep a generic look I'll look into something else as it's not grim dark enough for a BT side imo.

Or an FAQ to bring the Crusader Squad cost into conformity with the rest of the SM units. I hope they planned it the way it is and meant to give us cheaper marines because with the point increase was going to be rough to include Crusade squads in a list.

Which book is it from? Never mind got it, last book I have was the 1st 8th codex and was all together. So until they redo the recent supplement or faq we still use Faith and Fury right?

Scans of SM points have been leaked and there's no Crusader squads there?

Venerable at 2+, Las and Fist seems very good now.

I use metallic silver on joints, silver for aquilas and gold or silver for other details. Skulls almost always bone colour.

What stops you from firing them apart from self harm? Most blast weapons are turret weapons which can't traverse low enough to shoot oncoming targets. I guess Dreadnoughts with Missile Launchers will have to shoot Krak into melee instead of Frag if they give Frag blast... Makes sense.

What stops you from firing them apart from self harm?

Happy about these rules as they make sense, now hoping vehicles won't double in cost. Would've been even more realistic if you could choose to fire blast weapons but incur a wound for doing so.

Vehicles will shoot in combat at -1, -1 for shooting Heavies after moving only applies to Infantry. I need 5 Predators Edit: And no blast weapons in CC

Just make sure you've a bigger threat moving up the board as Razorbacks can drop fairly quickly leaving your Melta squad too far to matter.

Helbrecht because he gives +1S and rerolls to my Crusaders and LRC. LRC because its huge volume of shots supports my CC squads very nicely. Techmarine, repairs the above and more. Interceptor, mostly ignored (on the board and lists) but it's good at dealing with <fly> and low T on ground thanks to the 2 AC, it's also fairly durable. Power weapons, cheap and getting buffs like rerolls and +1S makes them pretty good.