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Easy, roll back to 2e with some more advanced psychological tables like in 1e All problems solved and make named characters opponent's permission, again -
That's just the explanation for the casuals, and newbies who don't look at the model, nor played previous editions, t was a quick and fast explanation No need to be sorry, that's exactly my point The storm eagle has two MM It has rules for one It used to have rules for two (in previous editions, twinlinked) MM Now it doesn't (now tl is intrinsic to the MM) Rules should be consistent, with both models and implementation I was just pointing out, they are not For examples of how dual weapons have been changed moving from v1 to V2, you may see the fire raptor and the stormbird, for which they did correctly parse Right now, there are two MM on a storm eagle, and it has the same rules as a singular one carried by infantry
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It has two MM on the model, previously this was given the twinlinked rule All MM in V2, have the twinlinked rule (cf: infantry) It has two MM present, look at the model and the rules in both 40k and V1 (where twinlinked is due to two parallel weapons) I... Don't think it can't be explained more clearly As it stands a singular man portable multimelta, has the same rule as dual multimeltas on the aircraft
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agreed with Slips it's a make or break option if you pull of a proper DSA, you're achieving much, but at high inherent risk check 'n' balances innit?
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I'm surprised I actually saw some netlists on here or reddit (I forget where) for V2, that utilized the old profile so at least some certainly haven't noticed this, yet
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Thats fundamentally what GW have been moving away from for the last 10 years rules NOW represent models models without rules, are removed technically. the Storm Eagle is now a model without rules (as you cannot build it correctly with what they provide, in terms of multimeltas), if you want to run wit that analogy (I wouldn't, I'm just highlighting how you're wrong) Thats actually quite quite wrong the aquila is an imperial symbol present even before the heresy, it was present within the heresy, it's found over all HH vehicles, and even the new polystyrene ones (shock horror, and the MKVI), what you mean, is the Imperialis, the astartes winged skull, which was adopted by loyalist forces within the heresy (and is anachronistic to be found on armour and armoured chassis during the heresy) anyway that aside, it's not the closest thing at all, it was released and unveiled at the same time in both 30k and 40k, it's a quitessential HH vehicle, not some stand-in, I can't fathom how you can have come to that conclusion it sounds awfully like you've missed the last 10 years of HH that isn't constructive or helpful, if you cant see how the model isn't represented correctly within the new edition rules, I can't help you I'm afraid, I'll leave it at that
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it also leaves us with the ridiculous difference between rulesets, models and store picture And the 30pt increase to lose a weapon in v2
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easy, because they dont decide to do that at all the model has two multimeltas, the rules give it one multimelta multimeltas have the twin-linked keyword by default (as a singular weapon cf: their stats and infantry, who certainly dont carry two ;-) ) thus the rules ignore the second multimelta present on the model (and ignoring the rules from both v1 and 40k which give it two multimeltas)
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I did mail it, albeit I believe they ignore those emails Yeah Gravis was just the easy fix I could think of, (double shots and treat the weapon as the same inseparable attack) it is the way that the fire raptor and stormbird quad turrets are adapted too for dual-twin linked weapons too But hey at least I'm not crazy, there are two MM on there, not one And the previous rules and the 40k rules state that too
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This maybe a PSA for people running Storm Eagles dropping in (I love them!) but something has come up, more than once, but I don't see much acknowledgement, so I'm throwing it here to raise awareness Premise: due to some questionable proof reading the Storm Eagle seem to have had a MultiMelta removed from its upgrade in V2 Background: in HH v1, and 40k a Storm Eagle (SE) can upgrade it's nose twin-linked heavy bolters, for twin-linked MultiMeltas Present: in HH v2, a MM (MultiMelta) is twin-linked by default (cf: infantry carrying only one of them, are still TL), that in effect means it's a twin-linked melta The SE can currently upgrade it's twin-linked Heavy Bolters for A SINGLE MultiMelta (!) The model has two Problem: This means RAW the SE has 1 shot of a weapon it has TWO of, which have twin-linked by default, when it should have 2 shots Solution: the SE should have 2 shots of a MultiMelta, considering it literally is modelled with 2 MM keeping with the HH v2 format, this should mean it's a Gravis MM (2 shots, and twin-linked), thus duplicating the rules found in both HH v1 and 40k cheers for hashing it out with me
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exactly what they said about Pathfinder (it's marketing to cover bases in case people dont like the subtle tweaks for tabletop->screen)! this happend with both previous games, it was a literal port, with a few tacked on mechanics for quality of life interactions with the world skills I can believe this is no different, and that's a good thing!
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Owlcat have been consistently outstanding with their adaptations of Pathfinder (I run both pf and DH/RT games irl in HK) Dark Heresy/Rogue Trader will easily be within their scope, the interview with the dev video, has some layover imagery, which clearly showed d100, so I would bet heavily it's literally Rogue Trader ported
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nice!
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I fully assume those are just getting reboxed. let's hope eh? when they normally do that they list it as Temporary Unavailable
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heads up Cataphractii Tartaros MkIV no longer LCTB and gone now from webstore
