AceofAllTradez

Maybe Angelus will gift Sevatar with a nice 2+ save or an ap 2 weapon. One can only hope.

I would absolutely love that.

could you provide the link? I must have missed that.

I don't think it's that they forget how to fight but more so they refuse to work together in the absence of curze or sevatar. With no central commander it's easy for them to fall into disarray since most of the legion doesn't get along to begin with. It definitely does suck though because they really haven't had any true victories with curze and sevatar in command that I can recall besides the dropsite massacre. Again hopefully Angelus fleshes out the engagements in Thramas.

Thramas was a nightmare for the dark angels. One of the reasons they came out on top was because of the Tuchulcha engine. A victory that may or may not have been achieved without the device.

I feel as if a high school student could write better when looking at some of his work in particular Angels of Caliban. Not all though.

It's treason, then. Yes, the VI do count it as victory. From a neutral view, I'd call it a Pyrrhic victory for the Wolves, but a huge, massive loss for the Imperium as a whole/TACTICAL GENIUS hurrrr for Horus when taken in the big picture - Magnus was, at the time Horus tricked Russ, loyal (though the breaking of the Edict did put that on shaky ground to start with). Traitor to me he ignored the edict. The word of the Emperor himself. There was no saving Magnus he was doomed from the start. Except the Emperor hadn't sent Russ to kill Magnus, but to apprehend him and return him to Terra. Magnus had made himself unbelievably useful to the Emperor with what he did - most likely, the Emperor needed Magnus' help in the Imperial Dungeon/Webway Project to attempt a repair on the broken sections. Most certainly. However Russ gave Magnus the opportunity to surrender, but unfortunately for Magnus shutting down the entire planet's communications seemed to backfire on him as Russ' message appeared to go unnoticed. Alas chaos triumphs on this one.

It's treason, then. Yes, the VI do count it as victory. From a neutral view, I'd call it a Pyrrhic victory for the Wolves, but a huge, massive loss for the Imperium as a whole/TACTICAL GENIUS hurrrr for Horus when taken in the big picture - Magnus was, at the time Horus tricked Russ, loyal (though the breaking of the Edict did put that on shaky ground to start with). Traitor to me he ignored the edict. The word of the Emperor himself. There was no saving Magnus he was doomed from the start.

Although this is not a primarch fight I'm kind of interested in how Sevatar meets his end.

I still have a hard time seeing how the wolves were the sole cause of his victory. The way I interpret the text is that we don't actually know how much time has passed in between when the wolves interfere and when the lighting strikes Russ, so in my opinion its strange to claim that Russ won due to his wolves interfering as these could be two separate events. Since we are dealing with primarchs its possible Russ could have recovered from the the sword through his body without his wolves stepping in. We can't assume that the fight was over once Magnus stabs Russ.

I understand Wolf fans...dissatisfaction with the covering of Prospero so far. The below is just my point of view. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp_mTYeG_Ng 1. Prospero only occurred because Magnus let it happen. and then sat out most of the fight. 2. The real "victors" of Propero were the Sisters of Silence. In re-reading A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns, wherever the SoS werent, the TS were slaughtering the Wolves with ease. It was only when their powers were nullified did the Wolves do any real damage (excluding the Wulfen and Russ) 3. Russ was only victorious in his duel as one of his Wolves bit Magnus at a key moment, distracting him and allowing Russ to go all WWE on him. They seemed evenly matched and traded some crazy blows In that light, the "time to shine" for the Vlka Fenryka can be greatly derided. So, for this Wolf (and Raven, and budding Iron Warrior...dont examine that too closely), it's mostly a waiting game for the Scouring. Point 3 I disagree with. If Russ's wolves were the cause of his victory then explain why both him and Magnus continued their duel after Magnus dispatched Russ's wolves? Russ's blade did not lash out the instant his wolves interfered.

I was always under the impression that the space wolves time to shine was during the scouring and hell even Prospero. Not sure why many feel the space wolves are entitled to some ungodly decisive victory even after Prospero. Keep in mind what Russ did to Magnus in their duel. The absurd destruction they caused on Prospero is something no other legion can claim to have accomplished.

I just cant picture primarchs being emo. Just a every weird way to look at a primarch.

sheng, or shang forgot the proper spelling. I would love to see him as well.

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but do the unsaved wounds caused by sever life cause additional wounds if the toughness test is failed again?