BluegrassGamer

I'm still kinda surprised that the Novitiates kill team wasn't listed as Ancillary Support operatives...

September's paint-n'-take model is a Hearthkyn Warrior.

I don't know yet. I know that I will probably pick up a box of Sternguard and Vanguard boxes - along with one of the old chapter upgrade sprues or some bits - to kitbash a legion Praetor. I keep going back and forth on whether or not I want to pick up the box or only a few things (the Spartan, the Contemptor, and the Cataphractii) from it and then pick up a few individual Tactical squads. I am probably going to grab the Space Marine Heroes set. And maybe Fafnir Rann or Dominion Zephon?

It's like the title asks: do we know if the plastic Cataphractii and Tartaros terminators will be re-released? I would guess that they're being repackaged similar to the Mark III and Mark IV Tactical Squads, but it seems odd that GW hasn’t said anything about them. Especially since Cataphractii terminators are in the inaugural battle box.

I think it can almost go too far though. Like with the new Guardians, I've built 30 of them (20 Defenders and 10 Storm) but used only the heads and weapons from one of the three kits. So I've got 2 completely untouched weapon sprues and another 2.5 sprues worth of leftover components like heads and heavy weapons - 4.5 sprues worth of spares, from 9 sprues. In the context of ever-increasing prices, GW producing (and charging me for) twice as much plastic as is necessary feels excessive, especially when there's no easy way to actually make use of all those spare weapons because there's no easy/cheap way to obtain more bodies to put them on. If they'd been more thoughtful about how the kit was laid out, Defenders and Storm Guardians could have been produced and sold as separate 2-sprue kits for a lower cost than a combined 3-sprue kit where half of it is wastage. And if GW had done something like what you suggested? There'd be someone complaining that with how expensive GW products are, their money should be able to go further and GW shouldn't be putting less things on the sprue and instead should have put more things on the sprue. Bit of a catch-22, isn't it?

The Citadel Colour website has been updated. It has Battle Ready, Parade Ready, and Uniform Variant videos for both the Ork and Death Korps kill teams.

I've been thinking about this old Dorkly comic a lot since the furor around GW's "new" IP policy kicked off. https://unrealitymag.com/youtubers-committed-crimes-comic/

A new How to Paint video just went up. The topic? Battle Ready Ork Kommandos. My guess is the next video will either be a Battle Ready Death Korps of Krieg video or a Parade Ready Ork Kommando video. Either way, it seems like the Kill Team release is close to hand. https://youtu.be/TVKkbzofKQM

It’s unfortunate, but I believe you’re still wrong on a number of points. 1) Extradition. - I’m not sure why you’ve brought brought up extradition. Extradition is a matter of criminal law. It specifically applies when a nation’s criminal court - we’ll say US, for this example - has indicted a foreign national and wants that foreign national turned over for trial or punishment. We’re talking about IP infringement and trademark laws. Those are civil matters. 2) Legal reciprocity. - Legal reciprocity applied to both civil AND criminal matters. The US Department of State says as much on their travel website. If you get taken to court in a foreign country for a civil matter and the foreign court rules against you? There absolutely are mechanics to ensure that judgement is enforced by the US legal system. 3) Forum shopping. - GW absolutely can forum shop. This happens when multiple courts have jurisdiction over an issue. Say someone in the US starts infringing on GW’s IP. As the plaintiff in the case, GW gets to choose where they take the case. If they think the US laws favor them, they could file in the US courts. If the UK laws favor them, the. GW can choose to file in a UK court of law.

As I, and others, have said before: GW isn't being predatory, malicious, or any other scary sounding synonym that comes to mind. They're being a corporation that is defending their IP. And they're defending it from fan content creators who've blatantly infringing on their IP and profiting from that infringement for years. Why should it be the fan community that finances a legal defense fund? Because it's percentage of the fan community that keeps saying stuff to the affect of: "Oh no, the fan content creator I love had to take down their monetized YouTube channel because they were infringing on GW's IP! What the fan content creator was doing was clearly legally protected parody! GW's actions wouldn't stand up in court! It's just a shame that beloved fan content creator can't cover the legal fees!" That same percentage says their going to boycott GW to teach them a lesson. When, instead, they could be contributing to that fan content creator's legal defense so they can go on making the fan content that percentage claims to love. As an aside: I'm kind of glad I'm not the hypothetical lawyer trying to defend, say, TTS in court. Mostly because I imagine that discovery alone would be hundreds upon thousands of stills taken from TTS episodes with pages of annotation documenting the providence each piece of GW artwork in each scene. What army book or codex it came from, what year the army book or codex was published in, the page number its on, the relevant IP and/or trademark paperwork showing that GW owns that piece of artwork, and the contracts between GW and that artist who created that artwork. "But the artwork in TTS moves!" Yeah, sure. But I'm not certain it moves enough.

... I think I need that Star Wars quote from earlier. The "Amazing! Every word you just said is wrong" one. As a multinational and multi-million pound company? Games Workshop certainly can choose where to file a suit. They can choose to file a suit in the jurisdiction that you live in or the jurisdiction that you do business. They might also have some way to argue that since GW is based in the UK that the case should be heard in UK courts. How? I dunno. Not a lawyer. A UK court shouldn't have any issue with enforcing civil judgement on a US citizen. Why? Legal reciprocity. All it takes is for the plaintiff to walk in to a US court - I'm assuming at the federal level, but I'm not a lawyer - and show them the punitive judgement rendered by the UK court. The US court is probably going to look at the punitive judgement issued against the US citizen and go "Yeap, we recognize that this is a valid judgement from a UK court. And it's enforceable." And then that US citizen is boned. I suppose the US citizen could try another round of litigation to show why the punitive judgment issued by a court in the UK shouldn't be recognized by the US courts. But that's to require even more money and time to be on a lawsuit they've already lost once. And sure, the community could start a legal defense fun for fan content creators. A top notch IP lawyer could decide to go pro bono and defend the fan content creators. But I dunno. Maybe I'm a cynic. It's probably not going to happen again.

To the first part: And it looks like you missed the part where it was said that GW is a multinational, multi-million pound company. And, as such, has to consider the various IP and trademark protection laws across all the countries/jurisdiction they do work in. In this thread, people have already noted that the US concept of "fair use" and the UK concept of "fair dealings" are similar yet different. It's also been stated in this thread that Germany's IP law is somewhat more strict than the laws in either the US or the UK. And if you think a multinational, multi-million pound corporation won't shop around for a court or jurisdiction that's favorable to them... You're mistaken. But, hey! There's something the fan community can do: put its money where its mouth is. And no, I'm not talking about boycotting GW. I'm talking about something, like, starting a legal defense fund specifically for the fan content creators that GW goes after. Or the people who keep insisting things like parody, fair dealings, and transformative work apply hear can go pro bono and represent these people in court. I don't expect either of those things to happen. Legal battles are expensive and can last for decades. I really doubt this fan community - or any fan community, really - has the fortitude to contribute hundreds of thousands of dollars over decades on to back such a legal fight. And everyone one who argues a legal point probably isn't an IP lawyer. Or, considering you cited a US case, isn't trained in internal IP or trademark law. The second part: When I, personally, think "American motorcycle manufacturer" I think Harley-Davidson. Or Indian. And no matter how poorly you think Harley-Davidson is doing, they're still making money. And still have a core of devoted fans/customers willing to buy not only their motorcycles by their merch as well.

Just two quick things: 1.) As I've said previously, and as this post shows, the fan base is only reacting this way due to the emotional attachment - or emotional investment? - they have to some of the established fan content creators. Even as folk rush to defend the fan content creators, they never once deny that the fan contact creators were infringing on GW's IP. They just keep saying that while GW has a right to defend its IP, that it shouldn't. 2.) I'm endlessly amused by the amount of people who keep saying that GW will lose fans over this. And sure, they might lose some fans. Lemme just paraphrase 40K lore for a moment: "But the [customer base] is large. And [the dissatisfied fans] will not be missed." There are fans out there who don't care about the IP issue, fans that don't think GW did anything wrong with protecting their IP, and there are fans who don't have accounts on B&C, Dakka, and other forums. And those fans are probably going to continue spending money at GW stores and subscribing to GW services. The moment a fan becomes dissatisfied with GW and swears off - for however long - buying products and subscriptions that GW offers? Is the moment that GW stops caring about that fan. Because that fan stopped being a customer. And there are other fans out there that are still buying GW's products and services. I think they're referring to AbsolutelyNothing. If I am remembering right, AbsolutelyNothing had a contact person inside of GW and they were in communication. AbsolutelyNothing had been approached about working for Warhammer+. AbsolutelyNothing declined the offer of working with GW and then asked if he could continue making 40K fan animations if AbsolutelyNothing demonetized his YouTube channel and his Patreon. Apparently, their contact at GW gave them the thumbs up. ...At which point either 1) the supervisor of AbsolutelyNothing's GW contact or 2) the GW legal department became aware of the issue and said "No, they can't. It's copyright infringement."

This something that, as a multinational and multi-million pound corporation, GW would never do. Look at things from a business perspective: With the launch of Warhammer+ and the content it will host, fan content creators stopped being fans. And became competitors. Competitors who, on the individual level and using TTS as an example, rake in 180K per year by blatantly infringing on GW's IP. There is no reason GW would allow any of that to continue. And despite what some folk think, GW's approach wasn't that ham-fisted. They went to fan content creators and said "Hey, we like what your doing with our IP. We'd love to have you come in house and make it an official product. Unfortunately, if you refuse, we are aware of what you're doing and we'll have to enforce our IP rights." Ham-fisted, in my opinion, would've been to announce Warhammer+ and then immediately send out the C&D notices to everyone.

People who think there was a "Good GW" and a "Bad GW" clearly lost sight of the fact that - as GW is multinational, multi-million pound corporation - there has only ever been GW. And I said previously a multinational, multi-million pound corporation is going to multinational, multi-million pound corporation. Which boils down to protecting the bottom line. Letting fans think there's a "Good GW"? So long as protects the bottom dollar. Shutting down established and popular fan creators who've infringed on their IP to make money? Gotta protect that bottom dollar and go after them for it. And I honestly think the reason a lot of folk are defending fan content creators is based more on their emotional attachment to those fan content creators than anything else. The sheer amount of folks who've said something along the lines "Yes, GW has a right to protect their IP! But they shoudn't!" kind of, to me, proves that.