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Centurion Jay

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If anyone knows anything about pre-heresy fists can you help me because im gonna start a pre-heresy fists army

thanks

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What do you wish to know?

The main thing to remember is that you should not have the Imperial Eagle on the chestplates of your marines, and also not to use the Crux Terminatus, as that did not come into use until after the Horus Heresy, (however, I left one on my Chaplain as it looked cool.) Using some of the Black Templar parts can be good, and you can keep some of the templar iconography. Things like cloaks and robes can look good if done right but try to keep it regal, not monastic like Dark Angels. It would also look awesome if you converted some MK2 & MK3 Power Armour for your marines.

Do you have a theme for your Fists? When I did mine, I used the Defence of the Imperial Palace as my theme. Specifically, the fighting that raged through the Palace's Ornamental Gardens.

Heres a few examples of what I did.

MK6 Marine

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MK5 Marine

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Chaplain

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Venerable Dreadnought

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Here is one i found, it is not as bright and shiny as the other schemes that i've seen, but i feel that it gives a more serious look to the imperial fist scheme rather than just the bright neon yellow that we all see on fist models.

http://www.cbstudios...rial/4525393843
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I play Fists, and I have some pics from the paintingprocess. they're not pre heresey but could be of help as inspiration maybe...

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I've just found a picture of what an Imperial Fist from the Heresy Era should look like, with regards to the colour scheme. Hope this helps.

http://oz.games-work...F_hawkins_b.jpg
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The paint scheme is exactly the same. they are easy to do. All you would need to do is just buy a ton of Mk 4 and Mk 5 bits. Beakies were during the Heresy, not Pre.
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All you would need to do is just buy a ton of Mk 4 and Mk 5 bits. Beakies were during the Heresy, not Pre.


Bit of an odd bit of advice, since the canon source that says Beakies were mid-heresy also says the same about Mk5..
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Mk6 corvus armour was introduced at the end of the great crusade, just prior to the Horus Heresy. Several of the marines in 'Battle for the Abyss' are wearing it (the Ultramarines IIRC).

However, the armour was featured more commonly on Horus' side, as he had taken control of the forgeworlds producing the new type of armour. Nothing to stop you using them in the Imperial Fists though (Mertio 23's models are an excellent example of this!)

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Mk6 corvus armour was introduced at the end of the great crusade, just prior to the Horus Heresy. Several of the marines in 'Battle for the Abyss' are wearing it (the Ultramarines IIRC).


Unless I'm mistaken Horus Rising/False Gods/Galaxy In Flames concur with the classic armour fluff article from the RT Compilation that it was MkIV that was being introduced at the end of the Heresy, with MkV being introduced almost overnight once the Heresy erupted and MkVI & VII entering production shortly before the Siege of Terra. (At the very least Horus Rising does, as it mentions the Luna Wolves and Emperors Children using MkIV whilst the Blood Angels still had MkIII)
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I am PRETTY sure that the ret-con letting Mk 6 slip into Heresy era was a financial/marketing decision. Which is rather irksome. Either way Mk 6 definitely wasn't PRE-Heresy. Earliest it could be was just preceding the Siege on Terra.
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Up until Battle for the Abyss was released I would have agreed with you, but that book retconned when mk6 actually came into use. Even though there is still an element of 'lost in history' about the whole horus heresy, Dan Abnett recently said that any information in the heresy books replaced anything that has been written before (Rt era, HH artbooks or whatever) so I guess as much as anything can be we have to accept that as canon about the heresy.

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There were quite a few notable descriptions in the HH novel the Flight of the Eisenstein. they have very hard faces in case you're gonna make one without a helmet.

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Up until Battle for the Abyss was released I would have agreed with you, but that book retconned when mk6 actually came into use. Even though there is still an element of 'lost in history' about the whole horus heresy, Dan Abnett recently said that any information in the heresy books replaced anything that has been written before (Rt era, HH artbooks or whatever) so I guess as much as anything can be we have to accept that as canon about the heresy.


Battle For The Abyss is happening after Istvaan and as Horus is on his way to Terra.

So that is mid Heresy still.
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Lol I think you are quibbling over minutae SamaNagol :D.. the point being that the marines were already armed with mk 6 armour as the heresy broke out (the events of BftA happening immediately after the destruction on Istvaan). You therefore have to assume that the armour was in ciculation prior to this event.

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Ah but not a single mention of Corvus armour AT Istvaan, in any of the books set during this time.

God is in the details :P

Remember the OP said PRE-Heresy.

Edited by SamaNagol, 06 October 2008 - 07:40 AM.

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