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Emperor's Children Tactica

Fulgrim Emperors Children Kakophoni Maru Skara Palantine Blades Phoenix Terminators Slaanesh 3rd Legion Horus Heresy

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3rd company elite makes kakophoni useful in ZM. They are a real threat down a corridor. It also gives your tactical marines access to sonic shriekers for combat bonuses. Combi flamers for the terminator would be good as well. Flamers are insane in ZM.

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A tactical squad would be a good addition as you're a bit short on scoring units, due to the 3 dreadnoughts. I think that on paper the Kheres is probably better than the culverin on the contemptor, but volkites are definitely cooler!

 

Remember that you can always cut the lascannon off the other contemptor and magnetise some weapons to give you flexibility :) 



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I thought combatant force organisation chart only allowed 2 troops? Am planning to try and magnetise the dread at some point, could a tactical support/veteran tactical squad/second terminator squad be a good idea? thinking possibly instead of one of the dreads or the seekers.
Also, as I have the calth heros lying around, I am wondering could a preator or champion in cataphrakti with chainfist and combi melta work? I know we are all about initative bonus, but being able to use instant death on any enemy heroes/threaten any dreads that try and cause trouble whilst leading a cattaphracti terminator squad with a phoenix spear sergeant would give a bit of an anvil for the rest of my force I'm thinking?


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QUOTE (Kol_Saresk @ Oct 22 2012, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how GW creates the Warp Talon to be some sort of super-powered Raptor, and instead it's become the king-of-all-kitbashes.

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Otherwise, command squads are cool, but fall a touch flat compared to Palatine Blades. With their ability to take artificer and AP2 at high initiative, they pretty much outrank the command squad in all aspects except for not having the fearless granting banner.


What? The command squad is the single best unit in the game! Put them on bikes, give them PF, combat shield and an Apothecarion And you have a 2+\4++\5+++ against shooting, a unit ignoring alsmost every ID-Weapon like Lascannons or Melta.
In CC they have 2+\5++\5+++ against powerfists and the like.

Not to mention the Banner. You heavy support squad getting strafed by a fireraptor? No problem, go to ground in cover and wnjoy the coversave. You Command squad can zip up the field and make them stand upright once again.

A fearless bubble is great against Kakophonie, NL and every single LD-test.
The Palatine blades are the fluffier option, true.
But they have no Invul- or Coversave whats so ever. Against other 2+ heavy hitters they absolutely need the charge. And if the enemie is stubborn or fearless, the palatine blades will likely lose. Oh, and no fearless bubble ;)

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5+1 dudes for 350 points (plus the preator on a bike as well) are not the best unit in the game. For that cost you get far better stuff.
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Agreed. There just aren't enough bodies in command squads.

They might work on bikes or jetbikes, but I'd rather take a cheap delegatus and some normal units for the amount of points they cost.

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Thouhts on terminator armoured chaplains and loadouts? I got phoenix guard legs, chest, head and shoulders which I plan to make into a chaplain. but was wondering what loadouts people thought best on them?


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QUOTE (Kol_Saresk @ Oct 22 2012, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how GW creates the Warp Talon to be some sort of super-powered Raptor, and instead it's become the king-of-all-kitbashes.

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Thouhts on terminator armoured chaplains and loadouts? I got phoenix guard legs, chest, head and shoulders which I plan to make into a chaplain. but was wondering what loadouts people thought best on them?

 

If your legion has any AP2 at initiative or similar: use that.

 

Otherwise, thunder hammer.



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Thouhts on terminator armoured chaplains and loadouts? I got phoenix guard legs, chest, head and shoulders which I plan to make into a chaplain. but was wondering what loadouts people thought best on them?

 

If your legion has any AP2 at initiative or similar: use that.

 

Otherwise, thunder hammer.

 

I thought Chaplains had to use a power axe or maul?


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QUOTE (Kol_Saresk @ Oct 22 2012, 06:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how GW creates the Warp Talon to be some sort of super-powered Raptor, and instead it's become the king-of-all-kitbashes.

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Thouhts on terminator armoured chaplains and loadouts? I got phoenix guard legs, chest, head and shoulders which I plan to make into a chaplain. but was wondering what loadouts people thought best on them?

 

If your legion has any AP2 at initiative or similar: use that.

 

Otherwise, thunder hammer.

 

I thought Chaplains had to use a power axe or maul?

 

Nope, when upgraded to a chaplain they get a Power Weapon to use as a Crozius but you can still swap any other weapon to whatever you want where available.


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Thouhts on terminator armoured chaplains and loadouts? I got phoenix guard legs, chest, head and shoulders which I plan to make into a chaplain. but was wondering what loadouts people thought best on them?


If your legion has any AP2 at initiative or similar: use that.

Otherwise, thunder hammer.
I thought Chaplains had to use a power axe or maul?
Nope, when upgraded to a chaplain they get a Power Weapon to use as a Crozius but you can still swap any other weapon to whatever you want where available.
That was pre-errata, now you're stuck with a crozius forever. And combi bolter cannot be exchanged to melee weapon.

Replaces their chainsword or combat blade (or power weapon if in Terminator armour) with a Crozius Arcanum, which is a power weapon (type as shown on model). The Crozius Arcanum is a Chaplain’s symbol of office and may not be replaced by any other weapon.



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I thought combatant force organisation chart only allowed 2 troops? Am planning to try and magnetise the dread at some point, could a tactical support/veteran tactical squad/second terminator squad be a good idea? thinking possibly instead of one of the dreads or the seekers.
Also, as I have the calth heros lying around, I am wondering could a preator or champion in cataphrakti with chainfist and combi melta work? I know we are all about initative bonus, but being able to use instant death on any enemy heroes/threaten any dreads that try and cause trouble whilst leading a cattaphracti terminator squad with a phoenix spear sergeant would give a bit of an anvil for the rest of my force I'm thinking?

 

You will be hard-pressed to be short of troops in any FoC, save the Leviathan one. And even then few people ever take 4 troops.

Worry instead about elite slots, they're pretty scarce in Zone Mortalis.







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