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must.. resist...urge...to..click...spoilers 

 

It's going to be a long couple months trying to avoid this thread


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I haven't read the book but the spoilers here...

From what I see, I don't like it. The reason being:

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I haven't read the book but the spoilers here...

From what I see, I don't like it. The reason being:

Spoiler


I mean, your points would be valid except...
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What SkimaskMohawk said mostly, but y'know, Proper Planning Prevents Pee Poor Performance ;) 


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To be fair, something along these lines was hinted in the Lion's Primarch book when someone popped up claiming to be Alpharius.
Sanguinius stood up, stretching his wings to their full extent. He flexed his hands. "I need no blade".
It was as though Sanguinius gleamed with pale light, his face white, eyes becoming blood-red, surrounded by the golden crown of flowing hair. Guilliman had witnessed glimpses of of his brother's wrath before, but had never seen the true Blood Angel unleashed. Sanguinius surged forward on alabaster wings, half a meter from the floor, whiteness streaming from him like flames.

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To be fair, something along these lines was hinted in the Lion's Primarch book when someone popped up claiming to be Alpharius.

 

Must of missed this, what happened?


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To be fair, something along these lines was hinted in the Lion's Primarch book when someone popped up claiming to be Alpharius.


Must of missed this, what happened?
It's from Wraight's 'First Legion' short, from the Sons of the Emperor anthology. Not the primarch novel.

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I haven't read the book but the spoilers here...

From what I see, I don't like it. The reason being:

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From what I've understood
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Again, to each his own. Some didn't enjoy the Lion novel, I quite enjoyed it.
I'll probably enjoy this one for sure. Especially as it's based on Alans work. :)

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Brother’s, the second I read Battle Captain Corpus wrote the words “I’m out” I knew we had been infiltrated by Alpharius. Either that, or he’s Mike Brooks who has yet to recover from getting into character. I must read this book now.

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I don't mind the revelation for Alpharius as at least it's in keeping with the Legion theme as a mysterious force working behind the scenes and creates some interesting possibilities. As long as it's well written. It at least seems to be using the forgeworld lore on their possible origins in a more interesting way than just taking an exemplary battle, or acting as a way to get across all the new organisational fluff.

 

The 30k "mary sue" lore from a forgeworld perspective will forever be held by the Dark Angels anyway. Now there is an example of layering on lots of extra little things that had little need to be there to nail the theme/vibe they were going for, with its fleets of gloriana battleships, supersecret missions that nobody else can know about or handle and handful of veterans killing hundreds of SoH.


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To be fair, something along these lines was hinted in the Lion's Primarch book when someone popped up claiming to be Alpharius.

Must of missed this, what happened?

 

It's from Wraight's 'First Legion' short, from the Sons of the Emperor anthology. Not the primarch novel.

 


Sorry, I am getting my prequels all muddled up. teehee.gif


Sanguinius stood up, stretching his wings to their full extent. He flexed his hands. "I need no blade".
It was as though Sanguinius gleamed with pale light, his face white, eyes becoming blood-red, surrounded by the golden crown of flowing hair. Guilliman had witnessed glimpses of of his brother's wrath before, but had never seen the true Blood Angel unleashed. Sanguinius surged forward on alabaster wings, half a meter from the floor, whiteness streaming from him like flames.

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I'm sorry but even if 50% of these spoilers are correct (I don't doubt them!) then I'm out. There's no way I'm buying or reading this. It just genuinely sounds like an author trying to shoe horn his own concept into an established storyline (Horus being the 1st primarch discovered etc) in a cack handed way to draw attention to his own poorly conceived work.
Kudos to those that can stomach it though.

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You...may want to read the FW lore before complaining.

It's also funny how there's a dedicated group of anti-fans who have issues with every single time Alpha Legion get the spotlight in a way entirely in keeping with their FW lore while having no meaningful issues with loyalists having non-thematic and non-explained absurdities. (Looking at you, magically multiplying Ultramarine fleet...after the entire Shadow Crusade, or Literally Everything About Heresy Dark Angels.)
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I for one sort of appreciate that FW went out of its way to give every Legion their own flavor of BS.

What I do despise is when we dont get to actually see the steps and the gears of said faction during their own story. Its why I hate Legion but Praetorian of Dorn is one my favorites.

I will tolerate any level of BS as long the author is creative enough to make it plausible. And outright love it if it seems brilliant.

I think Brooks is going more for my favored approach here and is tapping into some really good fluff. So I am good with it.

Except 'This is a lie', I will take my right as a reader and ignore those two lines to better enjoy the story lol. Because I refuse to accept Alpharius is a devout writer of fanfiction about himself. (I recognize the irony here).
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Gonna have to agree with BCC and Idaho on this one.

 

Just my 2c:

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Feel free to disagree and enjoy whatever you want


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"The Alpha Legion has- in spirit if not in body- remained much the same since its creation."

 

"Agents of stealth and misrule they may be, but when the Alpha Legion unleash their martial might, worlds shake at their tread."


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I haven't read the book but the spoilers here...

From what I see, I don't like it. The reason being:

Spoiler


I mean, your points would be valid except...
Spoiler

 

adding to this

 

Spoiler


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People like to whinge and moan about "the good old days," when things "were cool" and now somehow aren't.
One would think that this energy would be better invested in pursuing things one finds more to one's liking.
Then again, common sense doesn't seem to be all that common.


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Great points and the comparison to K is spot on.
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Overall reminder to keep on using spoiper tags.
Had to add some here and there.


Personal agreement with Observer. Great points! :tu:

Very own thought.
I'd praise Brooks even more if he had began the book with
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And ended it with
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My only issue with the reveal is

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Hmm...

 

Wait a sec...

 

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My only issue with the reveal is

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I see your point but....

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Edited by Kelborn, 27 January 2021 - 11:04 AM.

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Sanguinius stood up, stretching his wings to their full extent. He flexed his hands. "I need no blade".
It was as though Sanguinius gleamed with pale light, his face white, eyes becoming blood-red, surrounded by the golden crown of flowing hair. Guilliman had witnessed glimpses of of his brother's wrath before, but had never seen the true Blood Angel unleashed. Sanguinius surged forward on alabaster wings, half a meter from the floor, whiteness streaming from him like flames.

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I haven't read the book but the spoilers here...
From what I see, I don't like it. The reason being:

Spoiler

I mean, your points would be valid except...
Spoiler

My points are all still valid, not just because you've dismissed them.

We, the readers, know of the reasons for the Heresy from Horus and how they all interact with each other. Reading something and knowing it's all nonsense cheapens it for many and just makes you go "oh so it's all a big misunderstanding from someone" just makes you feel short changed.
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My only issue with the reveal is

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I see your point but....

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It even adds to that scene as it further emphasize
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"That was a lie."



I could get used to that quote. ;)

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