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Unit of the Week: Tervigon

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We have a new unit of the week! This week it's the Tervigon, the Big Mamma of the tabletop brood swarms. Rarely seen on tables, this monster has the ability to churn out termagants like nobody's business. What are you thoughts, and how best would you use these?

  • To compliment a list, or to build a list around? Will the beta rules affect your list(s)?
  • What size unit? Will you be running multiple units?
  • What Hive Fleet Traits, Adaptative Physiologies and Stratagems do you prefer and how much does it depend on the above choices?
  • Are you buffing this unit? If so, how?
  • Uses in Matched, Narrative and Open Play
  • What psychic powers are you taking? 

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Edited by Xenith, 19 April 2021 - 10:25 AM.

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I'm really curious about this. I remember them being incredibly powerful when they were introduced in 5th/6th edition, and they could spawn gaunts continuously, I believe some top tourney lists used 2 of these to flood the table. This pretty much died out by 8th ed where your newly spawned units needed to be paid for in points, at least in matched play. While the wording is still confusing, whether you can only replace dead models that were armed with Fleshborers, or you can only replace models with fleshborers on the table, one use in Matched is if you have a unit of 20/10 devilgaunts/borergaunts, 10 of them can die, auto pass Ld due to synapse, then have their losses replaced each turn with the Tervigon. Despite how bad the unit may be, that's a potential ~250pts worth of gaunts on the table over a game. Even in Matched I'm keen to try one out.

 

In Narrative, we have a whole other ball game, where the 'Gon can spit out small units of 10 borergaunts to flood the table with ObSec scoring units, which will be hard to remove. In my crusade campaign, I'm keen to get one of these babies in as my third HQ after the Neurothrope and Hive Tyrant just to see what they can do. I know other playes will be using summoning and other stuff, so I don't feel too bad about it.

 

How are you guys using them, if any?


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It's all about the spawning rule: it needs to be right for the unit to be worthwhile. While nobody wants the original form, something underwhelming isn't that much better. I'm not sure how this could be done as to not punish or reward choices, if you consider the cost per model. The only way this could be done is to use a direct points value somehow which I can't see happening.

 

I guess we'll find out, in the meantime I am hoping the current incarnation has some use that people can share. The Tervigon is quite a unique unit that fits the nid theme so it'd be great to get one and make good use of it :)


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Honestly I think the original spawning rule wouldn't be so overbearing anymore. The game has moved on from 5th edition. There are a lot more things around capable of killing high numbers of termagants, and the termagants themselves haven't gotten much harder to kill.
 
There are actually a lot of reasons tervigons were so good back in 5th. The spawning rules were only a part of it.
Everything from the way they handed out an aura of toxin sacs + adrenal glands + counterattack upgrades to nearby termagants, to how the Smash rules worked to give them a solid number of S10 tank killing attacks, to how they could be placed in troop slots to spam up to 5 of them at a time when the force org chart was normally quite restrictive. Plus after the common psychic power tables came out, for a period of time they had access to Biomancy, which could grant them the Iron Arm power and make them almost unkillable.
 
Anyway, back to modern 40k.
In their current state, Tervigons just don't do enough. They're kind of tough for an HQ, but they don't do anything with that toughness. They are fairly bad in melee, and their only shooting is the tyranid equivalent of a pintle mounted storm bolter. They cast a power, but so do most other HQs.
All they have going for them is spawning and replenishing units of termagants.
Currently the rules do not favour spawning new units. Both due to the reinforcement point cost, and also how those units aren't in a detachment, so don't get a hive fleet bonus or Objective Secured.
So you're left with a model that replenishes 10 fleshborer termagants each turn, assuming the nearby termagant units haven't been completely wiped out. Which just isn't very interesting.
 
If you're intent on using them, then putting one next to a couple of termagant units consisting of 20 devourers and 10 fleshborers is optimal. So you can remove the fleshborers as casualties before the more expensively armed models, and replace them from the tervigon.
I don't find this a particularly enticing strategy though. It's too easily dealt with, for too little benefit.

Edited by Arson Fire, 20 April 2021 - 02:42 AM.






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