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I saw it said elsewhere his attacks have increased and no degrading profile.
But would they show that on the box insert? It's only basic profile no special rules, so doesn't really suggest any changes.
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All other box profiles have had degrading profiles if applicable, eg anything over 10 wounds. There have been plenty of mistakes in these though but are a good guideline on how things could change. Of course this could be right and he doesn't have a degrading profile which may plug the gap between him and Morty in terms of resilency and effectivness as he's very slow in comparison.



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Also morks roar switches to rapid fire here too.
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If true, does this mean his model will be the first ever to have 10+ wounds but no degrading profile?

 

Could this be a sign of some high-wound models going back to 7E MONSTER profiles (with no degradation)?


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Also morks roar switches to rapid fire here too.

That's interesting because they left the 36" range. 
I dream of Ork shootas going back to 24" rapid fire, but I'd settle for rapid fire 2 18" range. Give me more dice. 

I saw this on that other site, seems to be some disagreement as to how new this sheet is and if it was a mist print that was never replaced or not. 
 


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If I'm honest, I don't like degrading profiles. More book keeping, too abstract for what it represents. I know it's a thing now but I have no problems with Ghazghull not degrading.
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If I'm honest, I don't like degrading profiles. More book keeping, too abstract for what it represents. I know it's a thing now but I have no problems with Ghazghull not degrading.


In what sense is it more book keeping? You need to keep track of how many wounds he has remaining anyway.

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I'm not sure, but maybe this is an alternative option to the damage cap rule he had.

 

Basically, you can shoot at him all you like, but if he does make it into your army lines - his stats are no worse than when the game started...?


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If I'm honest, I don't like degrading profiles. More book keeping, too abstract for what it represents. I know it's a thing now but I have no problems with Ghazghull not degrading.


In what sense is it more book keeping? You need to keep track of how many wounds he has remaining anyway.

If you have 5 different tanks/vehicles and a character that all have degrading profiles, you need to keep track of 15 different profiles and when to use them.

And since when does hitting on a 4+ represent a Predator losing a sponson?
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I think degrading profiles are a good thing in principle, as it creates a kind of parity between single-model entities and multi-model entities, but the idea of using 10 wounds has a hard cutoff is silly. It's fine for some 10+W models to not have one. 


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the higer wounds/lack of degrading profile may be an 'easy' way to account for the fact he is meant to be harder to kill/an equivalent to his no more than X wounds in a given phase.

-- too complicated to include in a basic sheet but easy to give him more wounds as a stop gap


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If I'm honest, I don't like degrading profiles. More book keeping, too abstract for what it represents. I know it's a thing now but I have no problems with Ghazghull not degrading.


In what sense is it more book keeping? You need to keep track of how many wounds he has remaining anyway.

 

 

I think it's not so much book keeping, but additional memory-load in a game already rammed with stuff to remember, leading to rule checking and lost time in games. 

 

In older versions, it was 'I can no longer shoot with that lascannon sponson', now it's my Tyrannofex just underwent 4 unit-variable and wound-level specific stat changes, and the strength of it's gun and melee attacks also changed. 

 

I'm glad Ghaz doesn't degrade...having him hit on a 4+/5+/ whatever when he's hurt is just...degrading...if you pardon the pun. 


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If true, does this mean his model will be the first ever to have 10+ wounds but no degrading profile?

Could this be a sign of some high-wound models going back to 7E MONSTER profiles (with no degradation)?


I doubt that they're getting rid of degrading profiles mid edition. I think they're just trying to make Ghaz even more special which makes sense as he is the fractions leader.

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If true, does this mean his model will be the first ever to have 10+ wounds but no degrading profile?

Could this be a sign of some high-wound models going back to 7E MONSTER profiles (with no degradation)?

I doubt that they're getting rid of degrading profiles mid edition. I think they're just trying to make Ghaz even more special which makes sense as he is the fractions leader.

He is 16/10 the leader of other army's leaders :P
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