Grey Mage, I'll address what I can:
How would making this an international non-profit organization affect things?
I know the B&C has members all over the globe, but I simply don't have that kind of broad tax law knowledge. I will have to say at this point we should strictly be discussing regional non-profit and the collectives where they would share GW
and supply orders. I personally can can only comment on USA tax law.
What exactly is considered under expenses? Cost of models/paints/glue/etc? Shipping? If my club has 75 members and we need a larger hall are we going to get a larger slice of the pie to pay for it- is it based on membership or donation level?
I should have been clearer. Expenses like renting out a hall or leasing space etc would have to be handled locally by each individual club strictly for its members only. I don't know of any way to share expenses like this on an international scale. The pooling aspect of my idea is strictly to be used to order supplies and models in bulks and to market/organize events across different non-profits that are near each other geographically. I hoped it would be obvious that geographically and financially separate clubs would need to attend the others tournments/events in addition to pooling orders for suppies and models. I don't want to get deep into the details of what and how to expense and report the IRS at this point, but here is a link to the search engine on the 990 tax forms which the non-profit clubs need to fill out every year for the IRS. You can look up any non-profit in the USA and thier expenses listed on the 990 form here:http://foundationcen...ders/990finder/
Also another example I know of is the German Shepherd Dog Club of America. When you join a local GSDCA club, the total membership fee includes money for your local club and the national club. If the B&C was the parent non-profit, I suppose the local clubs could collect the both the B&C fee and thier own. However in the United States a big club like the GSDCA, while a 501c(7), is following a different model than the one I am suggesting because they bring in more than $50,000 USD a year. Once you get to that level you need a real accountant, carry insurance and have a lawyer on retainer.
That being said- whats the difference between doing this on a nation-wide level and doing this on a local level? Why cant the guys in say... san francisco just do this themselves for the local community- or perhaps several sub communities- instead of joining a national/international group? Whats in it for them?
This is a good point. I was not trying to figure out an exact way for the clubs to communicate at this point, just the concept. However with that said, this is where the B&C comes into play. Clubs that are geographically close to one another need a way to coordinate purchases and market events held at thier clubhouses/facilities. They also would need a way to put thier club member order lists together in order to buy in bulk from GW
and other suppliers. These are the two areas where the B&C would be a vital part in fostering the cooperation between the clubs in thier local geographic areas.
Would there need to be a contract of some sort with individual members? How would distribution of 'supplies' work?
I asssume this would be pretty easy and yes, a hypothetical "Universal GW
order contract" should be simple and very clear. Lets say you pay a membership fee of $500 a year, you would then make your list, as an individual club member, of $500 worth of GW
goods to be ordered by the club at a designated time during the fiscal year. In order to save money all members would just place one big order through the clubs Tax ID all at once at the "GW
dealer rates", which would be available to club members to view before they make thier order selections (everyone in the club should know the wholesale prices and minimum order amounts set by GW
). The reason why including other clubs would be important is to further reduce the "dealer rate" per item. So instead of one club ordering $5,000 USD of GW
goods once a year, a dozen clubs pool and order $60,000 USD worth of GW
product once a year. I have not looked at GWs dealer rates in quite some time, but I assume the discount would be worthwhile on a $5,000+ order.
In what ways would you want to utilize the forum for this endeavor? Would the B+C be collecting money? If so, would the site itself be considered an 'expense' for an (inter)national NPO?
No, the B&C is vital to getting individual non-profit club leaders constantly talking to one another, then organizing the pooling of GW
orders and making sure everyone always knows who is holding an upcomming torunament (with entry fee, date, location and prizes). Also the B&C could store the torunament "leader board" and a whole bunch of other statistics that GW
doesn't track anymore (GW
has not done this since the Rogue Trader Tournamnet Days). I'm betting that these services alone would qualify the B&C to become some type of European non-profit, but like I said I only know US tax law.
Or perhaps ambitiously, the B&C could be a non-profit that helps other start non-profit clubs all over the globe?
Edited by momosgarage, 11 October 2011 - 06:26 PM.
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