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Adeptus Arbites hint in White Dwarf


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In this months White Dwarf, in the Temporal Distort feature on page 132, there is a paragraph that caught my eye:

".. the Adeptus Arbites haven't been seen around much lately, but with the likes of Genestealer Cults on the rise again, who knows when they might be back?"

Now, you could say that it's not much of rumour, but when you combine it with the rumour engine clue from the 26th September, the Eagle head, then it becomes a little more credible.

Edited by Cyrox, 22 October 2017 - 07:18 PM.

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arbites for xmas~~~


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A Judge Dredd themed 40K army? Shut up and take my money.
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Probably just Necromunda related. Still awesome tho. Judge Dredd here I come! :D


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Makes sense

There were also these earlier bits of info by Atia

Well, let's say - stuff that you thought wouldn't be possible in plastic is now possible. So in theory, most of the stuff on that list *could* be done now. I won't say more than that :X
 
Oh, and Necromunda/Arbites will get done by FW/SG. 
 
Also, I doubt they would do a Ratling/Ogryn supplement - sorry guys ^^


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So, the thing with Necromunda - same with Mordhaim btw - it will get done. For now, the focus is on Blood Bowl (with initial plastic releases and future resin teams) and Adeptus Titanicus (full resin). I imagine they will follow the BB mode and do a "starter box" with a gang and arbites, and follow on with seperate plastic and resin gangs. I also would be shocked if they wouldn't give us 30k/40k rules for the arbites this time - they had defend the imperial palast during the siege of terra after all. That said, there is no ETA on it, other than "it's planned".



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Arbites seem likely for Necromunda. Cool if you could use them in a Guard army too though.

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For the love of all that is holy make it plastic!
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Imagine they'll be getting a Necromunda box and some WD-style rules for 40K use. I tend to think Arbites aren't really the right "scale" for 40K, as an organization, but it'd be fun to use them in smaller narrative missions and the like.


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I see them coming in Necromunda, then being fleshed out in a codex :D


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Arbites are fully capable of fielding armies, at least of the scale of 40k. I recall in one novel they even had a platoon of russes :) 

I seem to recall Arbites in necromunda got shot down in the main necromunda thread though? A source saying they definitely were not up in the first waves and theyd be looking at Enforcers rather than Arbites proper in the underhive anyway. 

Would love to see an Arbites list, ive got a load of the metal enforcers im still considering painting up at some point! 


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The problem many people have with Arbites in Necromunda is that almost everyone wanted to play Arbites so the game turned from gang vs gang into Arbites vs Arbites with a few gangs inbetween.
At least from what I've read in different Necromunda groups/forums/etc.

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Well the old Miniatures have a dude with a big eagle hat. So yeah. Might be one of the teasers from Rumour mill.

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The problem many people have with Arbites in Necromunda is that almost everyone wanted to play Arbites so the game turned from gang vs gang into Arbites vs Arbites with a few gangs inbetween.
At least from what I've read in different Necromunda groups/forums/etc.

 

'Back in the day' there weren't that many Enforcer/Arbite players. I suppose times have changed somewhat and people more and more want to play glamorous elites.



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A bit unrelated but I was looking at some Arbiters artwork online and saw Warmaster Tiber Achilus. That Lion head on his shoulder looked familiar...
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A bit unrelated but I was looking at some Arbiters artwork online and saw Warmaster Tiber Achilus. That Lion head on his shoulder looked familiar...

You know, such a post would be much more useful with a link to those images....but you're right it's definitely another candidate for the rumour engine pic. tongue.png
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A bit unrelated but I was looking at some Arbiters artwork online and saw Warmaster Tiber Achilus. That Lion head on his shoulder looked familiar...

You know, such a post would be much more useful with a link to those images....but you're right it's definitely another candidate for the rumour engine pic. tongue.png

 

 

Except he's dead, and replaced by Solomon Tetrarchus.

 

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Back on topic, what's the difference between Enforcers and Adeptus Arbites?


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A bit unrelated but I was looking at some Arbiters artwork online and saw Warmaster Tiber Achilus. That Lion head on his shoulder looked familiar...

You know, such a post would be much more useful with a link to those images....but you're right it's definitely another candidate for the rumour engine pic. tongue.png

 
Except he's dead, and replaced by Solomon Tetrarchus.
 
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Back on topic, what's the difference between Enforcers and Adeptus Arbites?

Enforcers are second hand Arbites iirc. Mostly same equipment but don't belong to the Arbites etc.
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Enforcers are specific to Necromunda, at least from what we know, while Arbites are an imperial institution.

 

Is it bad that I want a sequel to the first Necromunda box with a gang of Arbites and Genestealer Cultists?


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Enforcers are specific to Necromunda, at least from what we know, while Arbites are an imperial institution.

 

Is it bad that I want a sequel to the first Necromunda box with a gang of Arbites and Genestealer Cultists?

 

Arbites yes please, GC no. They already have models man!

 

Though I wouldn't be surprised if the get rules for the new game though.



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Back on topic, what's the difference between Enforcers and Adeptus Arbites?

 

 

Enforcers, as I understand it, are a broad term for the police forces of individual planets. They enforce the laws of their homeworlds, and are probably mostly local recruits. The Adeptus Arbites are about enforcing Imperial law. So some workers form a mob and start a riot? The enforcers handle it. That riot damages Imperial property? It's now a matter of Imperial law as well and the Arbitrators get involved. Someone important gets gunned down in an alley? Enforcers. The person gunned down works for the Adeptus Terra? Arbitrators.


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A bit unrelated but I was looking at some Arbiters artwork online and saw Warmaster Tiber Achilus. That Lion head on his shoulder looked familiar...

You know, such a post would be much more useful with a link to those images....but you're right it's definitely another candidate for the rumour engine pic. tongue.png

 

 

Back on topic, what's the difference between Enforcers and Adeptus Arbites?

 

 

Enforcers are local police native to the planet. They deal with your everyday stuff like theft, murder, etc. Arbites are for ensuring the planet complies with Imperial law; gets it's tithe sent on time, the government is remaining loyal, etc. 

 

Basically, the Arbites are the FBI. Enforcers are your beat cops.


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@Urriak, read his profile, his ship disappeared in the warp. So it's a more MIA than KIA.

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The additional name/term Enforcers came later with Necromunda and BL novels. In WD's Temporal Distort they are also mentioning the 40k White Dwarf rules (for 2nd Ed) which came with the models release that month

Oct 2017 WD photo - via Reddit

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WD 169 (1994) - first two pages of the article

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They were a faction of their own with a brief army list back then


Previously the 2nd Ed starter set's Army lists/Codex Imperialis book(let)s contained brief rules and background info

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There were models in 1st Edition, too, based on Jes' artwork

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and before that GW produced Judge Dredd miniatures under license. I don't have access to the 1st Ed rulebook atm but from memory they were in there too, at least in the fluff if not with rules.

No mentioning of the term Enforcers in all of this. Afaik it came with Necromunda when they brought out the third Arbites miniatures range :)



I got from the Temporal Distort article and Atia's earlier info that GW will release new models via Necromunda (an infantry squad kit in plastic) but they will get 40k rules and an army list too, maybe as part of an 8th Edition Imperial Agents codex book.

A larger 40k release with more models, similiar to GSC, could happen but I think Atia's hint that they would come via FW/Specialist Games makes it less likely at the moment. But who knows? GW is bringing back a lot of stuff recently. Why not a fully plastic Arbites army with a vehicle or two, differently armed squads, cyber mastiffs and some character models? :)


Thanks for the welcome, Corswain :)

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The additional name/term Enforcers came later with Necromunda and BL novels. In WD's Temporal Distort they are also mentioning the 40k White Dwarf rules (for 2nd Ed) which came with the models release that month

Oct 2017 WD photo - via Reddit

https://i.imgur.com/OvB1wuc.jpg



WD 169 (1994) - first two pages of the article

https://html2-f.scri...-da6c7e2172.jpg
https://html1-f.scri...-f71dbacbec.jpg

They were a faction of their own with a brief army list back then


Previously the 2nd Ed starter set's Army lists/Codex Imperialis book(let)s contained brief rules and background info

https://i.pinimg.com...warhammer-k.jpg

http://pro.bols.netd...es-Workshop.jpg


There were models in 1st Edition, too, based on Jes' artwork

https://sho3box.file...dwinsketch1.jpg

and before that GW produced Judge Dredd miniatures under license. I don't have access to the 1st Ed rulebook atm but from memory they were in there too, at least in the fluff if not with rules.

No mentioning of the term Enforcers in all of this. Afaik it came with Necromunda when they brought out the third Arbites miniatures range smile.png



I got from the Temporal Distort article and Atia's earlier info that GW will release new models via Necromunda (an infantry squad kit in plastic) but they will get 40k rules and an army list too, maybe as part of an 8th Edition Imperial Agents codex book.

A larger 40k release with more models, similiar to GSC, could happen but I think Atia's hint that they would come via FW/Specialist Games makes it less likely at the moment. But who knows? GW is bringing back a lot of stuff recently. Why not a fully plastic Arbites army with a vehicle or two, differently armed squads, cyber mastiffs and some character models? smile.png


Thanks for the welcome, Corswain smile.png

 

Thanks for sharing - those articles bring back fond memories - I'm a 2nd edition era player and I loved those metal Arbites


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Seeing as Necromunda started off as a hint like this in a fan letter then it seems fairly likely that this is happening.

 

That Eagle rumour would fit in mighty finely too.


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