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Thanks Urza,

The upper pipe is from the DG contemptor dread breather gear, the lower pipes from the reaver titan head. For the trim I used the small cog you can see suspended from the Iron Hand Cataphractii terminator's waist:

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Although you could of course make a completely round version

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Anyone remember this guy?

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Well, here's Vhoreg.2:

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For some reason I have the feeling I'll be urged to update all of the previous designs over time, but hopefully by doing them in themed segments around each Order, their significant allies / enemies, characters & their role at Isstvan V, that'll spread out having to do re-designs

Thanks for looking

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Now do night Lords biggrin.png the clan shoulder pad is the nuts! So are these dudes your ETL vows? tongue.png

Hmmmmmmmm........well, it would be nice to have Brannsar actually win a fight for a change....

Maybe....the VIII are having a riot of a time onboard one of the Imperial Army transports in orbit at Isstvan V, turning it into a charnel house and doing all sorts of depraved stuff. And then, slowly, two dozen outlines begin to form in the blackness of the void, as dark as the aether itself. And the Night Lords pause, because they know that within wait warriors who have no concept of fear or terror, who possess a different kind of cruelty: the cruel indifference of soldiers who are entirely prepared to die.

However, at the moment, the only other Legion I'll be focusing on is the XX, based around their assault on the Crudelis. First up will be a Moritat.

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Right, I've had some interest from people wanting me to reference their personal armies / fluff in the past, so this is the 1st in a number of openings for members' input:

 

XX Legion: Moritat

This guy will be involved in the assault on the Crudelis, and will have somehow managed to infiltrate the vessel to upload a scrapcode virus to the vessel's defensive noosphere network, temporarily disabling the ship's automated defenses and allowing a second wave of XX Legion units to deploy upon the Crudelis's hull. He is discovered and injured, but is not identified as a casualty (i.e, he survives).

 

What I'm looking for is:

- a name, or, even better a particularly obscure / mysterious alias / title

- a formation he has been associated with previously within the Alpha Legion

 

 

Also, I realized I've never actually expressed my gratitude towards the whole FW team, especially their incredibly talented artists, for providing the foundation & inspiration that have made this tinkering possible. Because all I'm really doing, when you boil it down, is chopping up their work and rearranging it in different ways, with slight alterations & edits.

 

I realize this huge thank you will never actually reach anyone even vaguely associated with FW, but I know in light of changes made to the 40k incarnation of the Iron Hands, I've posted some pretty negative stuff, however, Forge World are the reason that I've remained interested in the hobby (alongside BL to a lesser extent) so I just wanted to make public how awesome everything their Horus Heresy series has become, and that it has almost single-handedly saved a particular section of the 40k community that might have otherwise abandoned it for good.

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Right, I've had some interest from people wanting me to reference their personal armies / fluff in the past, so this is the 1st in a number of openings for members' input:

 

XX Legion: Moritat

This guy will be involved in the assault on the Crudelis, and will have somehow managed to infiltrate the vessel to upload a scrapcode virus to the vessel's defensive noosphere network, temporarily disabling the ship's automated defenses and allowing a second wave of XX Legion units to deploy upon the Crudelis's hull. He is discovered and injured, but is not identified as a casualty (i.e, he survives).

 

What I'm looking for is:

- a name, or, even better a particularly obscure / mysterious alias / title

- a formation he has been associated with previously within the Alpha Legion.

Let me start by saying what an amazing work you have shared with us thus far and how I really in awe I with the sheer amount of work you have turned out so far.

Now are my two cents:

 

Contradicting reports point to the involvement of a class of moritat involved in aggressive forward recon operations linked to the term of "Shayatan". These were inserted prior to full operations for softening targets, opening access to defended areas and force multiplication by attacking in supposedly "safe" areas. In addition to the tools available to moritats in other legions, shayatan were highly crosstrained with the legion forges and librarius. some were even believed to be active psykers whose abilities were considered beneficent to shayatan operations, such as telepaths. Some hint to the delegation of former librarii to moritat status after Nikea, keeping the legion's psyker contigents fielded in secret before the betrayal.The assault on the Crudelis saw the use of "Hatif" pattern servoskulls, which were used to confuse and infiltrate the vessels noosphere and turn on board weapon emplacements against the crew. The body of the operative acting on the Crudelis, code named "Harrower from the Deep" was never recovered.

 

That is a bit crude but I look forward to my copy of Extermination this week and hope this gets your creative juices going...

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I was going to post some fluff about my idea for an 'Erinyes' formation from the XX Legion, but I feel that the fluff provided by Xin Ceithan is superior to my own for your purposes. Re-training/crosstraining former libarians as Moritats is just so ridiculously XX Legion. I love it.

 

Having looked up what I believe is the inspiration for the formation name ('Shaytan'?), I love the idea even more.

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Thanks for the input guys, its really cool to have some original ideas. I thought I'd create an amalgam from your ideas, which is extremely suitable for the XX Legion's secrecy & introverted nature.
 

 

 

Data recovered from the hemorrhaged cybernetic neural hubs of a number of praetorian servitors believed to have come into contact with the Alpha Legion infiltrator presents little in the way of factual information. What is known shows that the Astartes' amicus / inimicus transponder broadcasted no unit designation or name, only a vague and doubtlessly self-indulgent title; "Harrower from the Deep". Previously, this title had also been referenced in the limited data released by the XX Legion prior to the Council of Nikea's ruling, mentioned in a compilation of honors achieved by the 'Chrythsaor' and 'Erinyes' formations believed to have formed, or at least been associated with, the Legion's Librarius.  

 

Whether the cognomen referred specifically to the individual in question, was a collective term, or even honorific, it is perhaps surprising that it had also been recorded within an intercepted Alpha Legion comm-transmission subsequent to the Council of Nikea, in conjunction with a specialist formation termed 'Shayatan' (although why an Imperial body with sufficient capability to intercept and decrypt an internal communication from the notoriously secretive XX Legion would do so is unknown). The 'Shayatan' were believed to have primarily consisted of Moritat classification units, and began appearing in records around the same point at which Librarius formations were dissolved across the Legions.

 

Typical to information of the XX Legion, pictoral data suggests yet another formation with which the operative may have been associated, at least at the time of the Crudelis's flight from the Isstvan system. Markings on the Astartes' power armour were consistent with patterning identified with the Cadejo Cell, around which a particularly bloody reputation had been formed as the Heresy progressed. Remarkably, of all the intelligence gathered on the Alpha Legion forces that engaged the Ebon Vigil's vast Conveyor-Ark, not a single Legionary has been identified as bearing the same markings as the Moritat infiltrator, which suggests he may well have been the only member of his Cell present, although the possibility that a number of other such individuals were seeded amongst the Alpha Legion assault force according to some indecipherable stratagem has also been presented.

 

So without too many specifics, you get an idea of his progression

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Glad I was able to help, brother. Looking forward to what you create.

Considering that the fluff you posted for the Cadejo Cell was really awesome, and that you're at least contemplating a kill-team including them, I want to get this guy right, so I had a few ideas I wanted to check with you:

  • In terms of their specific patterning, I like the look of the black plate from the Extermination insignia page, so I was going to have him in normal AL colours, but with his left arm (viewer's right) black, leaving the Legion pad above turquoise, and have the opposite pad black
  • Did you have any ideas for a formation insignia? Extermination suggests the XX are fond of intricate icons with little meaning outside the Legion, and I was considering giving him some kind of symbol. If you haven't got any ideas, I was thinking of a skull in profile, tilted at 45o , and the Lernean hydra's 3 heads uncoiling from its open mouth, curling back towards the top of the skull?
  • I was also trying to figure out why there would be Cadejo operatives within the strike force, and I thought that their general avoidance of clandestine ops & the fact that the moritat was still bearing the Cell's insignia would be a bit iffy for infiltration purposes. Then I thought, what if their generally overt nature compared to many XX Legion formations & retention of their markings was significant? My idea is, a number of components of the AL strike force had operated under Omegon previously, and Alpharius was concerned that in what might later be a schism within the Legion, they would side against him & therefore refuse to engage their Loyalist target. Resultantly, maybe a dozen operatives from Cadejo Cell were attached to the force, their specific operational expertise acting as both a strong-arm threat of what the Legionaries could expect if they failed or turned from Alpharius, and also meaning they would be perfectly capable of efficiently liquidating their erstwhile brothers if they did come to doubt their course.

If you think any of the above aren't in line with the vision you have for Cadejo, just say the word Heathens - after all, I've got an entire Clan I can mess around with biggrin.png

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Just a quick update: the Scars Commander drawing I started went pretty wrong, I started off with inaccurate proportions so I had to leave him (I will revisit him in a new form when I come to the appropriate Order though).

However, I've just started on the Master of Signal attached to the 5th Order:

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How do you go about creating your personal marines? I'm not particularly good with computer programs but having read the article on the Imperial Fists from Extermination, I really want to explore making my own company with it's own markings and character.

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How do you go about creating your personal marines? I'm not particularly good with computer programs but having read the article on the Imperial from Extermination, I really want to explore making my own company with it's own markings and character.

This is a site Urza put me on to - and it is fantastically useful: http://pixlr.com/editor/

*Your first port of call is finding a base design to work from - all mine are sourced from 40k wiki, almost all armour / vehicle images from the FW HH series are up there, and are pretty high res.

*Then you'll want to remove iconography that'll be in the way / innacurate. Use a mix of the paint tool (best bet is to use the colour picker to select existing tones, use one of the fading round brushes, probably tick the diffuse option & adjust to about 70-80% opacity) and the blur tool to create a clean surface in those areas - for each different IH armour mark, I've made 'clean' versions to work from.

*For the icons / components you want to add, the best source is other FW HH images - I've probably got every single one from across the Legions saved on my PC, so I can select from across them - this is because they're appropriate resolution & have the right appearance. However, you'll need to crop them to create a transparent background. There are 2 methods. You can either directly open them as a new layer & use the eraser tool to remove the stuff around them - however, this can be real fiddly & tricky to get accurate. Another method I use is to crop a rectangle using paint as close around the desired object as possible, and then insert it into a word doc (keeping it landscape for max screen size) - then use free form shapes to block out all the areas you don't want - because you're assembling it from a series of small lines, its much quicker than doing it manually & is often more accurate. Just make sure all the shapes have no outline & the same fill colour. Once that's done, take a screenshot, insert it into paint & save it. Then open it as a new layer, use the wand tool to select the background colour & erase it all.

*Finally you'll want to arrange the new components - sometimes firstly, adjusting the hue / saturation / contrast / brightness of the new layers to get their look right is a good idea. Then use free transform (make sure to hold shift to maintain the original proportions) to adjust the size & orientation & then move it into place. Finally, save the new image - you might want to soften the edges between the layers, so opening the new pic again is a good idea, as you can blur all layers, not just the one selected.

*For maintaining background transparency, most pics on 40k wiki have a flat background - with the final image, use the wand tool to select this & erase it all. This might leave a border around the image - best bet is to just use a relatively pale background texture - getting rid of this 'halo' is a real pain in the censored.gif

Really, just experiment with the program - there are lots of useful & diverse tools - you just have to muddle your way through, figuring out what each one does - 'Ctrl z' (undo) & 'Ctrl y'(redo) will be your best friends.

Anywho, today's update:

Mars-Pattern Reaver Titan 'Ebon Vigil', Command Titan to Princeps-Maxima Ophelia Thrace

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Because why have 3 Turbolasers when you can have 8? :P

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Glad I was able to help, brother. Looking forward to what you create.

Considering that the fluff you posted for the Cadejo Cell was really awesome, and that you're at least contemplating a kill-team including them, I want to get this guy right, so I had a few ideas I wanted to check with you:

  • In terms of their specific patterning, I like the look of the black plate from the Extermination insignia page, so I was going to have him in normal AL colours, but with his left arm (viewer's right) black, leaving the Legion pad above turquoise, and have the opposite pad black
  • Did you have any ideas for a formation insignia? Extermination suggests the XX are fond of intricate icons with little meaning outside the Legion, and I was considering giving him some kind of symbol. If you haven't got any ideas, I was thinking of a skull in profile, tilted at 45o , and the Lernean hydra's 3 heads uncoiling from its open mouth, curling back towards the top of the skull?
  • I was also trying to figure out why there would be Cadejo operatives within the strike force, and I thought that their general avoidance of clandestine ops & the fact that the moritat was still bearing the Cell's insignia would be a bit iffy for infiltration purposes. Then I thought, what if their generally overt nature compared to many XX Legion formations & retention of their markings was significant? My idea is, a number of components of the AL strike force had operated under Omegon previously, and Alpharius was concerned that in what might later be a schism within the Legion, they would side against him & therefore refuse to engage their Loyalist target. Resultantly, maybe a dozen operatives from Cadejo Cell were attached to the force, their specific operational expertise acting as both a strong-arm threat of what the Legionaries could expect if they failed or turned from Alpharius, and also meaning they would be perfectly capable of efficiently liquidating their erstwhile brothers if they did come to doubt their course.

If you think any of the above aren't in line with the vision you have for Cadejo, just say the word Heathens - after all, I've got an entire Clan I can mess around with biggrin.png

I'll shoot a PM to you later tonight after work, promise. :)

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How do you go about creating your personal marines? I'm not particularly good with computer programs but having read the article on the Imperial from Extermination, I really want to explore making my own company with it's own markings and character.

This is a site Urza put me on to - and it is fantastically useful: http://pixlr.com/editor/

*Your first port of call is finding a base design to work from - all mine are sourced from 40k wiki, almost all armour / vehicle images from the FW HH series are up there, and are pretty high res.

*Then you'll want to remove iconography that'll be in the way / innacurate. Use a mix of the paint tool (best bet is to use the colour picker to select existing tones, use one of the fading round brushes, probably tick the diffuse option & adjust to about 70-80% opacity) and the blur tool to create a clean surface in those areas - for each different IH armour mark, I've made 'clean' versions to work from.

*For the icons / components you want to add, the best source is other FW HH images - I've probably got every single one from across the Legions saved on my PC, so I can select from across them - this is because they're appropriate resolution & have the right appearance. However, you'll need to crop them to create a transparent background. There are 2 methods. You can either directly open them as a new layer & use the eraser tool to remove the stuff around them - however, this can be real fiddly & tricky to get accurate. Another method I use is to crop a rectangle using paint as close around the desired object as possible, and then insert it into a word doc (keeping it landscape for max screen size) - then use free form shapes to block out all the areas you don't want - because you're assembling it from a series of small lines, its much quicker than doing it manually & is often more accurate. Just make sure all the shapes have no outline & the same fill colour. Once that's done, take a screenshot, insert it into paint & save it. Then open it as a new layer, use the wand tool to select the background colour & erase it all.

*Finally you'll want to arrange the new components - sometimes firstly, adjusting the hue / saturation / contrast / brightness of the new layers to get their look right is a good idea. Then use free transform (make sure to hold shift to maintain the original proportions) to adjust the size & orientation & then move it into place. Finally, save the new image - you might want to soften the edges between the layers, so opening the new pic again is a good idea, as you can blur all layers, not just the one selected.

*For maintaining background transparency, most pics on 40k wiki have a flat background - with the final image, use the wand tool to select this & erase it all. This might leave a border around the image - best bet is to just use a relatively pale background texture - getting rid of this 'halo' is a real pain in the censored.gif

Really, just experiment with the program - there are lots of useful & diverse tools - you just have to muddle your way through, figuring out what each one does - 'Ctrl z' (undo) & 'Ctrl y'(redo) will be your best friends.

Anywho, today's update:

Mars-Pattern Reaver Titan 'Ebon Vigil', Command Titan to Princeps-Maxima Ophelia Thrace

Because why have 3 Turbolasers when you can have 8? tongue.png

I put your advice to work and did some altering myself, could you take a look here? :)

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I've been wanting to do a design for one of these monsters for ages, but it took quite a while to compile appropriate bits for the final edit. Its still a WIP, as I will probably keep adding small details, as well as insignia, but I need to take a break from it for a bit and continue with 'fresh eyes', so here's progress so far:

Myrmidon Destructor, Praetorate Century - Legio Crucius Ebon Vigil Titan Maniple

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Sure:

 

Contemptors:

*Conversion Beamer - Iron Warriors contemptor

*Claw forearm - Iron Hands contemptor

*Feet - Sons of Horus contemptor

*Vent - Death Guard contemptor

Castellax:

*Chest plate

*Gorget

*Claw

*Face (central skull)

*Torso sides (calve plates)

Reaver Titan:

*Arm sockets

*Claw upper arm

*Pauldrons

*Arm piping

Thallax:

*Beamer piston (lightning gun sight)

*Thigh plates (pauldrons)

*Left neck cabling (lightning gun)

Misc:

*Pauldron Rims: IH cataphractii

*Back Generator: SoH Jump-pack

*Mask: Death Korps of Kreig Engineer

*Segmented Plating: Death Shroud

*Mechadendrites: AL Fellglaive

*Mechadendrite lower tips: IH meltabombs

*Mechadendrite upper tips: WE Cerberus barrel

*Shoulder Bars: AL Fellglaive Barrel

*Right neck piping: DG modified MK III

*Hood: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121226092726/warhammer40k/images/f/f7/Navigator_2.jpg

*Robes: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120716174106/warhammer40k/images/6/66/Confessor.jpg

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Also, just to let all you ladies and gents know what my (ambitious geek.gif ) plans for the future are: this is the list on contents I have for Order Quinarii:

*Battle Details
*Combat Data
5th Order:
*Formation Blurb
*Previous Assignments Blurb
*Order Org Chart
*Storm Contingent Tertius Decimus Org Chart
*Character Profile: Warleader Raumr
*Character Profile: Signal Master *****
*Profile: Lodge Veteran (Llythe)
*Profile: Tactical Sarge
*Profile: Thunderhawk Pilot
*Profile: Techmarine
*Design: Mortis Dreadnought
*Design: Caestus Ram
*Design: Deathwind Pod
*Design: Fellblade
*Design: Tarantula Turret
*Ship Feature: Battle Barge Unyielding Iron
*Org Chart: Mechanicum Auxiliary Maniple
*Design: Auxiliary Thallax
Ebon Vigil:
*Formation Blurb
*Titan Maniple Org Chart
*Design: Reaver Ebon Vigil
*Character Profile: Princeps Maxima Ophelia Thrace
*Formation Blurb: Praetorian Forces
*Profile: Myrmidon Destructor
*Design: Castellax
*Ship Feature: Conveyor-Ark Crudelis
*Design: Ship Turret
Alpha Legion Strike Force:
*Formation Blurb
*Profile: Support Legionary
*Design: Dreadnought
*Formation Blurb: Cadejo Operatives
*Profile: Cadejo Moritat
*Ship Feature: Battleship Delta-Psi-Primus

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  • 3 weeks later...

"CADEJO":

++Insignia: internal use only - armourial display inlicitus++

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++Insignia: common armourial use++

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++Data-fragment: ex-loaded from central cogitator mainframe, Remembrancer Frigate 'Andronicus' [wrecked]++

Within a Legion shrouded in myth and allegory, what little is known of the formation identified as ‘Cadejo’ suggests it took a far less clinical approach to warfare than was common for the Legionaries of the Alpha legion. Although records rarely mention it by name – either a result of ignorance, subterfuge or paranoia – forces which match the description of the Cadejo Cell had been identified in the decades preceding the XXth Legion’s true emergence upon the discovery of its Primarch.

Believed to have combined a number of specialties generally under-represented within the Alpha Legion during the Great Crusade, the operatives of the Cadejo Cell conducted operations which required stratagems outside the Legion’s usual preferences: those of attrition, defensive actions, terror assaults, purging campaigns, extermination operations and hazard / death zone warfare. Units of Cadejo operatives functioned in roles normally filled by Breachers, Destroyers and demolition experts depending on their deployment, and although their assigned role generally opposed their Legion’s paradigms, their unsubtle and bloody practices were still keenly influenced by Alpha Legion operational customs – if their warfare was as violent and unrelenting as a viral-phage ravaging a human body, their arrival was as silent and unheeded as the breath of air that introduced it. Indeed, although very few accounts of their engagements can be authenticated, what reports do exist claim their number arrived entirely unannounced, appearing in the midst of an enemy, but that such butchery that followed was as remorseless and methodical as the warfare of the IVth Legion.

+Remnants irredeemable+

++Assembled depiction - source: recovered neural hubs [praetorian servitors], Legio Crucius Conveyor-Ark 'Crudelis'++

+Attached notation+

Data recovered from the hemorrhaged cybernetic neural hubs of a number of praetorian servitors believed to have come into contact with the Alpha Legion infiltrator presents little in the way of factual information. What is known shows that the Astartes' amicus / inimicus transponder broadcasted no unit designation or name, only a vague and doubtlessly self-indulgent title; "Harrower from the Deep". Previously, this title had also been referenced in the limited data released by the XX Legion prior to the Council of Nikea's ruling, mentioned in a compilation of honors achieved by the 'Chrythsaor' and 'Erinyes' formations believed to have formed, or at least been associated with, the Legion's Librarius.

Whether the cognomen referred specifically to the individual in question, was a collective term, or even honorific, it is perhaps surprising that it had also been recorded within an intercepted Alpha Legion comm-transmission subsequent to the Council of Nikea, in conjunction with a specialist formation termed 'Shayatan' (although why an Imperial body with sufficient capability to intercept and decrypt an internal communication from the notoriously secretive XX Legion would do so is unknown). The 'Shayatan' were believed to have primarily consisted of Moritat classification units, and began appearing in records around the same point at which Librarius formations were dissolved across the Legions.

Typical to information of the XX Legion, pictoral data suggests yet another formation with which the operative may have been associated, at least at the time of the Crudelis's flight from the Isstvan system. Markings on the Astartes' power armour were consistent with patterning identified with the Cadejo Cell, around which a particularly bloody reputation had been formed as the Heresy progressed. Intelligence gathered on the Alpha Legion forces that engaged the Ebon Vigil's vast Conveyor-Ark identifies approximately a dozen Legionaries bearing the same markings as the Moritat infiltrator, which suggesting such individuals were seeded amongst the Alpha Legion assault force according to some indecipherable stratagem.

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++Assembled depiction - source: combat telemetry, outer hull auspex arrays, Legio Crucius Conveyor-Ark 'Crudelis'++

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++Addendum: Insignia, inconsistent armorial display, Alpha Legion strike-force++

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....Right, first off I take no credit for the original idea behind Cadejo, which goes to Heathens. In terms of my plans for the Defense of the Crudelis, Cadejo is gonna be featured as a unique cadre amongst the XX Legion attackers. If you want to know where further background on these guys is going, check out Heathen's original idea: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/246857-warband-names/?p=2988679 , as the introduction posted above is a slight alteration on this original fluff.

In terms of what's coming next, I'll be continuing with designs from the rest of the AL force, probably a 'normal' colour-scheme Assault Legionary & Support Legionary, as well as a number of vehicles.

I'd also like to ask for some input in creating a Harrowmaster for the strike-force. The idea is that the skull-hydra symbol above is affiliated with his previous deployments, but the Strike-force forms only a portion of the troops believed to be at his disposal, with their bulk at Isstvan V itself. The reason this strike force was assigned to effectively picket the system's outer reaches, awaiting targets of opportunity from the X Legion's fleet, is that its commander is something of a fringe element within the Legion [as in, he lies within Omegon's camp].

So if anyone has a Harrowmaster they've been fluffing out, who is loyal to Alpharius, and perhaps who's forces fragmented due to internal formations varying in loyalty, what I'm looking for is a name / title, and perhaps a formation which has formed his forces which I can reference.

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